http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20052426,00.html
These pictures bring back soooo many memoires:cry:....Man how far gaming has come since those days.
19 High Scoring Old-School Games.
i grew up in the paperboy, gauntlet and double dragon era. at the time those games looked amazing. funny how good your imagination is when you're young :)19 High Scoring Old-School Games.
[QUOTE=''Macutchi'']i grew up in the paperboy, gauntlet and double dragon era. at the time those games looked amazing. funny how good your imagination is when you're young :)[/QUOTE]Contra and centipede were 2 of the hardest games i've ever played.
Friday, April 16, 2010
Alright, 15 days and still no Valkyria C ...
Lemspot confirmed!Alright, 15 days and still no Valkyria C ...
No they are just really really slow.Alright, 15 days and still no Valkyria C ...
fail
its been a week and no banjo review either. no l4d.gs is a joke. i still dont understand why we want to use them for reviews
Remember how long it took for World of Goo? It'll probably come eventually.
[QUOTE=''xbox360isgr8t'']its been a week and no banjo review either. no l4d.gs is a joke. i still dont understand why we want to use them for reviews [/QUOTE]Oh well ign it is then.
So?Nuts %26 Bolts isn't reviewed yet.Neither is Left 4 Dead.
[QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer''][QUOTE=''xbox360isgr8t'']its been a week and no banjo review either. no l4d.gs is a joke. i still dont understand why we want to use them for reviews [/QUOTE]Oh well ign it is then. [/QUOTE] i dont argue reviews. but simply from the fact that they are much slower than others.
Yeah, what's up with the long load.....er,..review times?
[QUOTE=''SolidGame_basic'']Lemspot confirmed![/QUOTE] Actually its more like Cowspot because with reviews they make you Just Wait.
Fortunately for me, I don't rely on Gamepot's reviews.
They were doing well in October and actually reviewed games days before release date. Not sure what happened here.:?
[QUOTE=''xbox360isgr8t''][QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer''][QUOTE=''xbox360isgr8t'']its been a week and no banjo review either. no l4d.gs is a joke. i still dont understand why we want to use them for reviews [/QUOTE]Oh well ign it is then. [/QUOTE] i dont argue reviews. but simply from the fact that they are much slower than others. [/QUOTE]Thats why I'm saying use ign instead (for reviews).bloom-
No they are just really really slow.Alright, 15 days and still no Valkyria C ...
fail
its been a week and no banjo review either. no l4d.gs is a joke. i still dont understand why we want to use them for reviews
Remember how long it took for World of Goo? It'll probably come eventually.
[QUOTE=''xbox360isgr8t'']its been a week and no banjo review either. no l4d.gs is a joke. i still dont understand why we want to use them for reviews [/QUOTE]Oh well ign it is then.
So?Nuts %26 Bolts isn't reviewed yet.Neither is Left 4 Dead.
[QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer''][QUOTE=''xbox360isgr8t'']its been a week and no banjo review either. no l4d.gs is a joke. i still dont understand why we want to use them for reviews [/QUOTE]Oh well ign it is then. [/QUOTE] i dont argue reviews. but simply from the fact that they are much slower than others.
Yeah, what's up with the long load.....er,..review times?
[QUOTE=''SolidGame_basic'']Lemspot confirmed![/QUOTE] Actually its more like Cowspot because with reviews they make you Just Wait.
Fortunately for me, I don't rely on Gamepot's reviews.
They were doing well in October and actually reviewed games days before release date. Not sure what happened here.:?
[QUOTE=''xbox360isgr8t''][QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer''][QUOTE=''xbox360isgr8t'']its been a week and no banjo review either. no l4d.gs is a joke. i still dont understand why we want to use them for reviews [/QUOTE]Oh well ign it is then. [/QUOTE] i dont argue reviews. but simply from the fact that they are much slower than others. [/QUOTE]Thats why I'm saying use ign instead (for reviews).
PC gaming market bigger than you think
From the article:''According to JPR, current world wide combined console sales for the latest generation of home consoles (PS3, XB360, Wii) total somewhere close to 75.7 million units shipped. That might sound like a lot, but it's made to look small in comparison to the 196 million gaming PCs shipped in the last three years - and that doesn't even include any enthusiast systems built from component parts''http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#lastOne thing to keep in mind though sales of games on the PC still lag behind the consoles. unless you are world of warcraft, sims or a valve gamePC gaming market bigger than you think
Does that number include all the horrible PC's marketed as gaming PC's? Unfortunately the ordinary person doesn't know that 8400 GS is not good for gaming.PC gaming market bigger than you think
[QUOTE=''RK-Mara'']Does that number include all the horrible PC's marketed as gaming PC's? Unfortunately the ordinary person doesn't know that 8400 GS is not good for gaming.[/QUOTE] I know I will cause pain to console fanboys but:Any GPU above the 8500GS can run games at ULTRA HD PS3 rez of 576p....at the ULTRA HIGH 2xAA....
Well i decided not to bother myself anymore trying to proove point to some 12 y old console kidsI want to enjoy playing games @ XHD on my great gpu with ultra precise razer copperhead mouse lol :lol:
[QUOTE=''Lidve''] Well i decided not to bother myself anymore trying to proove point to some 12 y old console kidsI want to enjoy playing games @ XHD on my great gpu with ultra precise razer copperhead mouse lol :lol:[/QUOTE]Copperhead FTW.
[QUOTE=''crozon'']From the article:''According to JPR, current world wide combined console sales for the latest generation of home consoles (PS3, XB360, Wii) total somewhere close to 75.7 million units shipped. That might sound like a lot, but it's made to look small in comparison to the 196 million gaming PCs shipped in the last three years - and that doesn't even include any enthusiast systems built from component parts''http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#lastOne thing to keep in mind though sales of games on the PC still lag behind the consoles. unless you are world of warcraft, sims or a valve game[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#last]Linked for the lazy![/url]
from rockpapershotgun.comCleverthinks research company Jon Peddie Research have put together a report on the state of the PC hardware market, and it's looking good. Peddie says: ''From Q3 2005 till Q3 2008, 196 million gaming PCs shipped, and 10 million of them were in the Mainstream Enthusiast class-and if we include mainstream desktop and High-end high-end notebook, we could add another 187 million units-now that really is a lot.''The Techwatch article (currently on the front page of the Peddie site) seems astonished at the rude health of the PC gaming industry compared to the fledgling consoles. In fact it gets a little sarcastic about the HDTV fanfare from console types: ''Thankfully HD TVs are sneaking into the living room bringing 720p and, in some cases, 1080i capability. Imagine, 720p almost as good as 1024 x 768-old XGA resolution introduced by IBM in 1988-wow.''Peddie sums it up: ''Fact is the PC Gaming Market is bigger, worth more money, growing faster, and has better technology than the console market. How come no one but us seems to know that?''
pc is coming back big in full force, thanks to ps3 and xbox360. the development fees is so high for these consoles, that developers have no choice but to risk dumping there properties on the pc. I decided to go pc gaming thanks to those other 2 consoles.
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[QUOTE=''True_Gamer_''][QUOTE=''RK-Mara'']Does that number include all the horrible PC's marketed as gaming PC's? Unfortunately the ordinary person doesn't know that 8400 GS is not good for gaming.[/QUOTE] I know I will cause pain to console fanboys but:Any GPU above the 8500GS can run games at ULTRA HD PS3 rez of 576p....at the ULTRA HIGH 2xAA.... [/QUOTE] um.... cards lower than that can do higher than that...i ran those settings on my 6600 GTX PS: if your getting a video card, get the GTX or the Ultra, they are the best
[QUOTE=''crozon'']from rockpapershotgun.comCleverthinks research company Jon Peddie Research have put together a report on the state of the PC hardware market, and it's looking good. Peddie says: ''From Q3 2005 till Q3 2008, 196 million gaming PCs shipped, and 10 million of them were in the Mainstream Enthusiast class-and if we include mainstream desktop and High-end high-end notebook, we could add another 187 million units-now that really is a lot.''The Techwatch article (currently on the front page of the Peddie site) seems astonished at the rude health of the PC gaming industry compared to the fledgling consoles. In fact it gets a little sarcastic about the HDTV fanfare from console types: ''Thankfully HD TVs are sneaking into the living room bringing 720p and, in some cases, 1080i capability. Imagine, 720p almost as good as 1024 x 768-old XGA resolution introduced by IBM in 1988-wow.''Peddie sums it up: ''Fact is the PC Gaming Market is bigger, worth more money, growing faster, and has better technology than the console market. How come no one but us seems to know that?''[/QUOTE] LMAO in what world is 1280x720 worst than 1024x768? Fullscreen sucks and 1280x720 is more pixels than 1024x768. They lost the little credibility they had.
[QUOTE=''Rahnyc4'']pc is coming back big in full force, thanks to ps3 and xbox360. the development fees is so high for these consoles, that developers have no choice but to risk dumping there properties on the pc. I decided to go pc gaming thanks to those other 2 consoles. [/QUOTE]PC gaming never left. :)In fact, without PC gaming there would never have been any consoles whatsoever.
[QUOTE=''crozon''] From the article:''According to JPR, current world wide combined console sales for the latest generation of home consoles (PS3, XB360, Wii) total somewhere close to 75.7 million units shipped. That might sound like a lot, but it's made to look small in comparison to the 196 million gaming PCs shipped in the last three years - and that doesn't even include any enthusiast systems built from component parts''http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#lastOne thing to keep in mind though sales of games on the PC still lag behind the consoles. unless you are world of warcraft, sims or a valve game[/QUOTE]Many upon many PC games sell 1+ million. Hell, The Witcher (which is a fairly niche RPG) sold 1+ million. Tons upon tons of others have as well. It balances out as well considering the royalty fees are hefty when making a game on a console. Plus the development costs on the PC are far less than others. Edit: They're not including my PC. :( I built it myself from hardware bought from websites. That's as bad as NPD not counting digital distribution for their PC sales. You have to count everything.
Sure the hardware sells, but what about the games? Isn't that what really matters? All these hardware sales for ''gaming PCs'' just don't add up to the weak software sales. ''While it's certainly good news that the PC gaming master race is continuing to grow and that the hardware market is sound, we still have concerns about the state of the PC gaming especially as more and more titles go multi-format and intellectual property piracy becomes ever more rampant. While the hardware is out there, the sales figures are clear that it's not being utilised in a gaming breadth anywhere near as wide as consoles.'' Funny all these ''gaming PCs'' just to play WoW and the sims, yay pc gaming.http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#last
[QUOTE=''shadow_hosi''][QUOTE=''True_Gamer_''][QUOTE=''RK-Mara'']Does that number include all the horrible PC's marketed as gaming PC's? Unfortunately the ordinary person doesn't know that 8400 GS is not good for gaming.[/QUOTE] I know I will cause pain to console fanboys but:Any GPU above the 8500GS can run games at ULTRA HD PS3 rez of 576p....at the ULTRA HIGH 2xAA.... [/QUOTE] um.... cards lower than that can do higher than that...i ran those settings on my 6600 GTX PS: if your getting a video card, get the GTX or the Ultra, they are the best [/QUOTE] 6600GTX doesnt even exist. Show mone review of it. Show me it at Nvidias 6 series home page. Nice try tho
Why are PC gamers so insecure.
360 has 30 plus million sellers. How many does PC have since 2005?
[QUOTE=''robflores370''] Sure the hardware sells, but what about the games? Isn't that what really matters? All these hardware sales for ''gaming PCs'' just don't add up to the weak software sales. ''While it's certainly good news that the PC gaming master race is continuing to grow and that the hardware market is sound, we still have concerns about the state of the PC gaming especially as more and more titles go multi-format and intellectual property piracy becomes ever more rampant. While the hardware is out there, the sales figures are clear that it's not being utilised in a gaming breadth anywhere near as wide as consoles.'' Funny all these ''gaming PCs'' just to play WoW and the sims, yay pc gaming.http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#last [/QUOTE]Many PC games sell 1+ million copies. Piracy? Sure, piracy is a problem on any platform (other than PS3 atm till a bluray burner is made). And of course PC has it a bit more than others. Less than 25% of PC gamers pirate any games at all though. So it's not as if all do it (if anyone thought that they need help). PC games do sell well but piracy does hurt the sales a bit. These gaming PC's are far from only being WoW and Sims PC's. Hell, Crysis alone sold around 2 million copies and that had steeper than usual requirements.
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[QUOTE=''Puckhog04''][QUOTE=''robflores370''] Sure the hardware sells, but what about the games? Isn't that what really matters? All these hardware sales for ''gaming PCs'' just don't add up to the weak software sales. ''While it's certainly good news that the PC gaming master race is continuing to grow and that the hardware market is sound, we still have concerns about the state of the PC gaming especially as more and more titles go multi-format and intellectual property piracy becomes ever more rampant. While the hardware is out there, the sales figures are clear that it's not being utilised in a gaming breadth anywhere near as wide as consoles.'' Funny all these ''gaming PCs'' just to play WoW and the sims, yay pc gaming.http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#last [/QUOTE]Many PC games sell 1+ million copies. Piracy? Sure, piracy is a problem on any platform (other than PS3 atm till a bluray burner is made). And of course PC has it a bit more than others. Less than 25% of PC gamers pirate any games at all though. So it's not as if all do it (if anyone thought that they need help). PC games do sell well but piracy does hurt the sales a bit. These gaming PC's are far from only being WoW and Sims PC's. Hell, Crysis alone sold around 2 million copies and that had steeper than usual requirements. [/QUOTE]So with 196 million gaming PCs most titles can barely muster 1 million copies, thats weak IMO. I'm willing to bet if there were 196 million xbox 360's, Halo 3 would've sold 50million plus. Sure there is piracy on consoles but it is nowhere near as bad as it is on PC. Sure titles like gears 2, GTAIV, and others are leaked early, but they still sell millions. Gears 2 did 2.1 million the first day alone. I think GTAIV did 9 million on both consoles. Where are those type of sales with pc games other than WoW?
Does that number include all the horrible PC's marketed as gaming PC's? Unfortunately the ordinary person doesn't know that 8400 GS is not good for gaming.PC gaming market bigger than you think
[QUOTE=''RK-Mara'']Does that number include all the horrible PC's marketed as gaming PC's? Unfortunately the ordinary person doesn't know that 8400 GS is not good for gaming.[/QUOTE] I know I will cause pain to console fanboys but:Any GPU above the 8500GS can run games at ULTRA HD PS3 rez of 576p....at the ULTRA HIGH 2xAA....
Well i decided not to bother myself anymore trying to proove point to some 12 y old console kidsI want to enjoy playing games @ XHD on my great gpu with ultra precise razer copperhead mouse lol :lol:
[QUOTE=''Lidve''] Well i decided not to bother myself anymore trying to proove point to some 12 y old console kidsI want to enjoy playing games @ XHD on my great gpu with ultra precise razer copperhead mouse lol :lol:[/QUOTE]Copperhead FTW.
[QUOTE=''crozon'']From the article:''According to JPR, current world wide combined console sales for the latest generation of home consoles (PS3, XB360, Wii) total somewhere close to 75.7 million units shipped. That might sound like a lot, but it's made to look small in comparison to the 196 million gaming PCs shipped in the last three years - and that doesn't even include any enthusiast systems built from component parts''http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#lastOne thing to keep in mind though sales of games on the PC still lag behind the consoles. unless you are world of warcraft, sims or a valve game[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#last]Linked for the lazy![/url]
from rockpapershotgun.comCleverthinks research company Jon Peddie Research have put together a report on the state of the PC hardware market, and it's looking good. Peddie says: ''From Q3 2005 till Q3 2008, 196 million gaming PCs shipped, and 10 million of them were in the Mainstream Enthusiast class-and if we include mainstream desktop and High-end high-end notebook, we could add another 187 million units-now that really is a lot.''The Techwatch article (currently on the front page of the Peddie site) seems astonished at the rude health of the PC gaming industry compared to the fledgling consoles. In fact it gets a little sarcastic about the HDTV fanfare from console types: ''Thankfully HD TVs are sneaking into the living room bringing 720p and, in some cases, 1080i capability. Imagine, 720p almost as good as 1024 x 768-old XGA resolution introduced by IBM in 1988-wow.''Peddie sums it up: ''Fact is the PC Gaming Market is bigger, worth more money, growing faster, and has better technology than the console market. How come no one but us seems to know that?''
pc is coming back big in full force, thanks to ps3 and xbox360. the development fees is so high for these consoles, that developers have no choice but to risk dumping there properties on the pc. I decided to go pc gaming thanks to those other 2 consoles.
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[QUOTE=''True_Gamer_''][QUOTE=''RK-Mara'']Does that number include all the horrible PC's marketed as gaming PC's? Unfortunately the ordinary person doesn't know that 8400 GS is not good for gaming.[/QUOTE] I know I will cause pain to console fanboys but:Any GPU above the 8500GS can run games at ULTRA HD PS3 rez of 576p....at the ULTRA HIGH 2xAA.... [/QUOTE] um.... cards lower than that can do higher than that...i ran those settings on my 6600 GTX PS: if your getting a video card, get the GTX or the Ultra, they are the best
[QUOTE=''crozon'']from rockpapershotgun.comCleverthinks research company Jon Peddie Research have put together a report on the state of the PC hardware market, and it's looking good. Peddie says: ''From Q3 2005 till Q3 2008, 196 million gaming PCs shipped, and 10 million of them were in the Mainstream Enthusiast class-and if we include mainstream desktop and High-end high-end notebook, we could add another 187 million units-now that really is a lot.''The Techwatch article (currently on the front page of the Peddie site) seems astonished at the rude health of the PC gaming industry compared to the fledgling consoles. In fact it gets a little sarcastic about the HDTV fanfare from console types: ''Thankfully HD TVs are sneaking into the living room bringing 720p and, in some cases, 1080i capability. Imagine, 720p almost as good as 1024 x 768-old XGA resolution introduced by IBM in 1988-wow.''Peddie sums it up: ''Fact is the PC Gaming Market is bigger, worth more money, growing faster, and has better technology than the console market. How come no one but us seems to know that?''[/QUOTE] LMAO in what world is 1280x720 worst than 1024x768? Fullscreen sucks and 1280x720 is more pixels than 1024x768. They lost the little credibility they had.
[QUOTE=''Rahnyc4'']pc is coming back big in full force, thanks to ps3 and xbox360. the development fees is so high for these consoles, that developers have no choice but to risk dumping there properties on the pc. I decided to go pc gaming thanks to those other 2 consoles. [/QUOTE]PC gaming never left. :)In fact, without PC gaming there would never have been any consoles whatsoever.
[QUOTE=''crozon''] From the article:''According to JPR, current world wide combined console sales for the latest generation of home consoles (PS3, XB360, Wii) total somewhere close to 75.7 million units shipped. That might sound like a lot, but it's made to look small in comparison to the 196 million gaming PCs shipped in the last three years - and that doesn't even include any enthusiast systems built from component parts''http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#lastOne thing to keep in mind though sales of games on the PC still lag behind the consoles. unless you are world of warcraft, sims or a valve game[/QUOTE]Many upon many PC games sell 1+ million. Hell, The Witcher (which is a fairly niche RPG) sold 1+ million. Tons upon tons of others have as well. It balances out as well considering the royalty fees are hefty when making a game on a console. Plus the development costs on the PC are far less than others. Edit: They're not including my PC. :( I built it myself from hardware bought from websites. That's as bad as NPD not counting digital distribution for their PC sales. You have to count everything.
Sure the hardware sells, but what about the games? Isn't that what really matters? All these hardware sales for ''gaming PCs'' just don't add up to the weak software sales. ''While it's certainly good news that the PC gaming master race is continuing to grow and that the hardware market is sound, we still have concerns about the state of the PC gaming especially as more and more titles go multi-format and intellectual property piracy becomes ever more rampant. While the hardware is out there, the sales figures are clear that it's not being utilised in a gaming breadth anywhere near as wide as consoles.'' Funny all these ''gaming PCs'' just to play WoW and the sims, yay pc gaming.http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#last
[QUOTE=''shadow_hosi''][QUOTE=''True_Gamer_''][QUOTE=''RK-Mara'']Does that number include all the horrible PC's marketed as gaming PC's? Unfortunately the ordinary person doesn't know that 8400 GS is not good for gaming.[/QUOTE] I know I will cause pain to console fanboys but:Any GPU above the 8500GS can run games at ULTRA HD PS3 rez of 576p....at the ULTRA HIGH 2xAA.... [/QUOTE] um.... cards lower than that can do higher than that...i ran those settings on my 6600 GTX PS: if your getting a video card, get the GTX or the Ultra, they are the best [/QUOTE] 6600GTX doesnt even exist. Show mone review of it. Show me it at Nvidias 6 series home page. Nice try tho
Why are PC gamers so insecure.
360 has 30 plus million sellers. How many does PC have since 2005?
[QUOTE=''robflores370''] Sure the hardware sells, but what about the games? Isn't that what really matters? All these hardware sales for ''gaming PCs'' just don't add up to the weak software sales. ''While it's certainly good news that the PC gaming master race is continuing to grow and that the hardware market is sound, we still have concerns about the state of the PC gaming especially as more and more titles go multi-format and intellectual property piracy becomes ever more rampant. While the hardware is out there, the sales figures are clear that it's not being utilised in a gaming breadth anywhere near as wide as consoles.'' Funny all these ''gaming PCs'' just to play WoW and the sims, yay pc gaming.http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#last [/QUOTE]Many PC games sell 1+ million copies. Piracy? Sure, piracy is a problem on any platform (other than PS3 atm till a bluray burner is made). And of course PC has it a bit more than others. Less than 25% of PC gamers pirate any games at all though. So it's not as if all do it (if anyone thought that they need help). PC games do sell well but piracy does hurt the sales a bit. These gaming PC's are far from only being WoW and Sims PC's. Hell, Crysis alone sold around 2 million copies and that had steeper than usual requirements.
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[QUOTE=''Puckhog04''][QUOTE=''robflores370''] Sure the hardware sells, but what about the games? Isn't that what really matters? All these hardware sales for ''gaming PCs'' just don't add up to the weak software sales. ''While it's certainly good news that the PC gaming master race is continuing to grow and that the hardware market is sound, we still have concerns about the state of the PC gaming especially as more and more titles go multi-format and intellectual property piracy becomes ever more rampant. While the hardware is out there, the sales figures are clear that it's not being utilised in a gaming breadth anywhere near as wide as consoles.'' Funny all these ''gaming PCs'' just to play WoW and the sims, yay pc gaming.http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#last [/QUOTE]Many PC games sell 1+ million copies. Piracy? Sure, piracy is a problem on any platform (other than PS3 atm till a bluray burner is made). And of course PC has it a bit more than others. Less than 25% of PC gamers pirate any games at all though. So it's not as if all do it (if anyone thought that they need help). PC games do sell well but piracy does hurt the sales a bit. These gaming PC's are far from only being WoW and Sims PC's. Hell, Crysis alone sold around 2 million copies and that had steeper than usual requirements. [/QUOTE]So with 196 million gaming PCs most titles can barely muster 1 million copies, thats weak IMO. I'm willing to bet if there were 196 million xbox 360's, Halo 3 would've sold 50million plus. Sure there is piracy on consoles but it is nowhere near as bad as it is on PC. Sure titles like gears 2, GTAIV, and others are leaked early, but they still sell millions. Gears 2 did 2.1 million the first day alone. I think GTAIV did 9 million on both consoles. Where are those type of sales with pc games other than WoW?
Just me or does WotLK and Braid have
...The same music? I mean have you been to Grizzly Hills in Northrend? It sounds a lot like Braid. I love both games, I'm just sayin'!Just me or does WotLK and Braid have
Guess that's a no.Just me or does WotLK and Braid have
It'd be better if you gave links to each music.I assume many people have played one game, but not the other.
[QUOTE=''ice144'']It'd be better if you gave links to each music.I assume many people have played one game, but not the other. [/QUOTE] ya ive never played wow.
Guess that's a no.Just me or does WotLK and Braid have
It'd be better if you gave links to each music.I assume many people have played one game, but not the other.
[QUOTE=''ice144'']It'd be better if you gave links to each music.I assume many people have played one game, but not the other. [/QUOTE] ya ive never played wow.
Eurogamer: Lips Review
SingStar, anyone? Judging by more than 15 million sales and more than 2.2 million song downloads, the answer is yes. Microsoft wants in on the action, just as it does with EyeToy (You're in the Movies) and Buzz (Scene It?), and so it has enlisted respected Japanese music game developer iNiS to create an alternative that matches the Sony game almost word for word and hopefully builds on it.
The result is a karaoke experience fundamentally indivisible from Sony's vision of how it should work - right down to an outright refusal to use the 'k' word anywhere near it. Players of Guitar Hero World Tour and Rock Band will recognise the formula too; your singing is rated according to pitch and timing rather than exact notes. However, Lips also aims to outdo the competition by celebrating and rewarding vibrato, rather than punishing it as deviation, and although it often denies you points for brief and low starting points, the way you react to sudden changes in a song's pitch is marked with greater sympathy5/10http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=309023 Eurogamer: Lips Review
Not surprised. It is just a Singstar clone after all. Eurogamer: Lips Review
[QUOTE=''Jack_Bauer07'']Not surprised. It is just a Singstar clone after all. [/QUOTE]im surprised that iNis left EBA or Ouendan to do this cr///
I want to know how the implications of your own music library work. If it's efficient enough, I may get this in January when the spending mayhem that has encompassed the past few months of my life dies down a bit.
[QUOTE=''farnham''][QUOTE=''Jack_Bauer07'']Not surprised. It is just a Singstar clone after all. [/QUOTE]im surprised that iNis left EBA or Ouendan to do this cr///[/QUOTE]They must not have sold well.... But it is sad to see such a strong music developer move on to grayer pastures.
Lips is a better game then Singstar.
[QUOTE=''PS3_3DO'']Lips is a better game then Singstar. [/QUOTE] How so? Everything it does is a step down from Singstar. Excluding the putting music from your ipod thing (which is pretty useless seeing how theres no lyrics or anything on the screen)And it doesn't have the awesome video features of Singstar.
Given the developer, i was expecting WAY more
The result is a karaoke experience fundamentally indivisible from Sony's vision of how it should work - right down to an outright refusal to use the 'k' word anywhere near it. Players of Guitar Hero World Tour and Rock Band will recognise the formula too; your singing is rated according to pitch and timing rather than exact notes. However, Lips also aims to outdo the competition by celebrating and rewarding vibrato, rather than punishing it as deviation, and although it often denies you points for brief and low starting points, the way you react to sudden changes in a song's pitch is marked with greater sympathy5/10http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=309023 Eurogamer: Lips Review
Not surprised. It is just a Singstar clone after all. Eurogamer: Lips Review
[QUOTE=''Jack_Bauer07'']Not surprised. It is just a Singstar clone after all. [/QUOTE]im surprised that iNis left EBA or Ouendan to do this cr///
I want to know how the implications of your own music library work. If it's efficient enough, I may get this in January when the spending mayhem that has encompassed the past few months of my life dies down a bit.
[QUOTE=''farnham''][QUOTE=''Jack_Bauer07'']Not surprised. It is just a Singstar clone after all. [/QUOTE]im surprised that iNis left EBA or Ouendan to do this cr///[/QUOTE]They must not have sold well.... But it is sad to see such a strong music developer move on to grayer pastures.
Lips is a better game then Singstar.
[QUOTE=''PS3_3DO'']Lips is a better game then Singstar. [/QUOTE] How so? Everything it does is a step down from Singstar. Excluding the putting music from your ipod thing (which is pretty useless seeing how theres no lyrics or anything on the screen)And it doesn't have the awesome video features of Singstar.
Given the developer, i was expecting WAY more
Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix-N ...
PS3-Tuesday, November 25360-Wednesday, November 26HereCan't wait! Now, about that price...I hope its not too much.Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix-N ...
[QUOTE=''rockguy92''] PS3-Tuesday, November 25360-Wednesday, November 26HereCan't wait! Now, about that price...[/QUOTE]Did you see a price?Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix-N ...
[QUOTE=''finalfantasy94''][QUOTE=''rockguy92''] PS3-Tuesday, November 25360-Wednesday, November 26HereCan't wait! Now, about that price...[/QUOTE]Did you see a price?[/QUOTE]No. I'm just speculating.
Finally! :D
[QUOTE=''rockguy92'']PS3-Tuesday, November 25360-Wednesday, November 26HereCan't wait! Now, about that price...[/QUOTE] Too late, with SF4 on the horizon I am not even gonna waste my money on this milkage. Maybe if it came out last year like it was suppossed to then maybe they would have got my money but i know that the SF fanbase will move from this game to SF4 when it releases so its not worth it to me, especially with all the good full new games out there.
Please, nobody say they're going to 'own' somebody online... please.I mean, we all think we're good at Street Fighter :|
[QUOTE=''leadernator''] Please, nobody say they're going to 'own' somebody online... please.I mean, we all think we're good at Street Fighter :| [/QUOTE]Actually I would be owned. If ownly I had the money.
Ugh. I'm totally going to owe my wallet an apology next week....
Finally this game is coming out!Seriously, Capcom completely screwed up with this game, they actually forgot to release it. Now its coming out way too close to SF4 and its going to cost them sales.
I will own everybody and theyre father at this game I issue a challenge for you psn users send me a request if you think you can bang with the best I have won over 30 street fighter arcade awards and even jean claude vaan damme said I was L337.
I wish they would stop wasting time with remaking turbo 2 and just get the street fighter alpha series on the VC,XBLA or PSN :(
Tuesday for PSN? Thats odd, normall its ThursdaysOh well, want to know price, but recently with the milkage thats been going on, i wont be surprised with 1200 points...
[QUOTE=''Jacboy71'']I will own everybody and theyre father at this game I issue a challenge for you psn users send me a request if you think you can bang with the best I have won over 30 street fighter arcade awards and even jean claude vaan damme said I was L337.[/QUOTE] I'll be waiting.
the game is said to have a hip hop soundtrack so it wil be nice to hear the tunes and ur tunes while u fight
shoryuken!
[QUOTE=''rockguy92''] PS3-Tuesday, November 25360-Wednesday, November 26HereCan't wait! Now, about that price...[/QUOTE]Did you see a price?Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix-N ...
[QUOTE=''finalfantasy94''][QUOTE=''rockguy92''] PS3-Tuesday, November 25360-Wednesday, November 26HereCan't wait! Now, about that price...[/QUOTE]Did you see a price?[/QUOTE]No. I'm just speculating.
Finally! :D
[QUOTE=''rockguy92'']PS3-Tuesday, November 25360-Wednesday, November 26HereCan't wait! Now, about that price...[/QUOTE] Too late, with SF4 on the horizon I am not even gonna waste my money on this milkage. Maybe if it came out last year like it was suppossed to then maybe they would have got my money but i know that the SF fanbase will move from this game to SF4 when it releases so its not worth it to me, especially with all the good full new games out there.
Please, nobody say they're going to 'own' somebody online... please.I mean, we all think we're good at Street Fighter :|
[QUOTE=''leadernator''] Please, nobody say they're going to 'own' somebody online... please.I mean, we all think we're good at Street Fighter :| [/QUOTE]Actually I would be owned. If ownly I had the money.
Ugh. I'm totally going to owe my wallet an apology next week....
Finally this game is coming out!Seriously, Capcom completely screwed up with this game, they actually forgot to release it. Now its coming out way too close to SF4 and its going to cost them sales.
I will own everybody and theyre father at this game I issue a challenge for you psn users send me a request if you think you can bang with the best I have won over 30 street fighter arcade awards and even jean claude vaan damme said I was L337.
I wish they would stop wasting time with remaking turbo 2 and just get the street fighter alpha series on the VC,XBLA or PSN :(
Tuesday for PSN? Thats odd, normall its ThursdaysOh well, want to know price, but recently with the milkage thats been going on, i wont be surprised with 1200 points...
[QUOTE=''Jacboy71'']I will own everybody and theyre father at this game I issue a challenge for you psn users send me a request if you think you can bang with the best I have won over 30 street fighter arcade awards and even jean claude vaan damme said I was L337.[/QUOTE] I'll be waiting.
the game is said to have a hip hop soundtrack so it wil be nice to hear the tunes and ur tunes while u fight
shoryuken!
Breaking 360 warranties special (IGN)
Any of you guys see this? lmaohttp://xbox360.ign.com/dor/articles/932099/breaking-the-360-video-feature/videos/broken360_111808.htmlBreaking 360 warranties special (IGN)
[QUOTE=''Kratos-Sackboy''] Any of you guys see this? lmaohttp://xbox360.ign.com/dor/articles/932099/breaking-the-360-video-feature/videos/broken360_111808.html[/QUOTE]fixedBreaking 360 warranties special (IGN)
lol, the ending was hilarious.Well done IGN..well done.
OMG!....How original....lololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololohahahahahahahahahahahahahahalolol
Lmao he put it in a microwave :lol:
that was funny - a terrible waste of a 360 but funny... 3... 2... 1... let the ign is biased posts roll in... lol jk i think we can all see this was just for laughs lol
:lol: Nicely done IGN.Uh oh, I hear the million clatters of critters approaching this thread. *hands TC a flame shield*
hahaha that was hilarious.It's funny cause it's true. :)
LOL at the best way to get the RROD if all else fails xD
Heh, that was pretty funny.Especially when he put it in the microwave:lol:
i knew IGN was full of cows after all!!!!11111111
well done.
I didnt think that was funny at all actually.
I'm going to go try it.
[QUOTE=''Gh0st_Of_0nyx'']I didnt think that was funny at all actually.[/QUOTE] lol yes you did
[QUOTE=''spence1988''][QUOTE=''Gh0st_Of_0nyx'']I didnt think that was funny at all actually.[/QUOTE] lol yes you did[/QUOTE] Umm no I didnt Im all for making fun of RROD but that was more cheesy then funny.
HILARIOUS!
[QUOTE=''Gh0st_Of_0nyx'']I didnt think that was funny at all actually.[/QUOTE]Yeah you would say that...
[QUOTE=''Rockman999''][QUOTE=''Gh0st_Of_0nyx'']I didnt think that was funny at all actually.[/QUOTE]Yeah you would say that...[/QUOTE] I only laughed at the end when they jumped into the air and froze time lol other then that it wasnt really funny IMO.
Its funny because we all know everyone is crapping their pants that has launch consoles that wont be under warrenty anymore.
[QUOTE=''Kratos-Sackboy''] Any of you guys see this? lmaohttp://xbox360.ign.com/dor/articles/932099/breaking-the-360-video-feature/videos/broken360_111808.html[/QUOTE]fixedBreaking 360 warranties special (IGN)
lol, the ending was hilarious.Well done IGN..well done.
OMG!....How original....lololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololohahahahahahahahahahahahahahalolol
Lmao he put it in a microwave :lol:
that was funny - a terrible waste of a 360 but funny... 3... 2... 1... let the ign is biased posts roll in... lol jk i think we can all see this was just for laughs lol
:lol: Nicely done IGN.Uh oh, I hear the million clatters of critters approaching this thread. *hands TC a flame shield*
hahaha that was hilarious.It's funny cause it's true. :)
LOL at the best way to get the RROD if all else fails xD
Heh, that was pretty funny.Especially when he put it in the microwave:lol:
i knew IGN was full of cows after all!!!!11111111
well done.
I didnt think that was funny at all actually.
I'm going to go try it.
[QUOTE=''Gh0st_Of_0nyx'']I didnt think that was funny at all actually.[/QUOTE] lol yes you did
[QUOTE=''spence1988''][QUOTE=''Gh0st_Of_0nyx'']I didnt think that was funny at all actually.[/QUOTE] lol yes you did[/QUOTE] Umm no I didnt Im all for making fun of RROD but that was more cheesy then funny.
HILARIOUS!
[QUOTE=''Gh0st_Of_0nyx'']I didnt think that was funny at all actually.[/QUOTE]Yeah you would say that...
[QUOTE=''Rockman999''][QUOTE=''Gh0st_Of_0nyx'']I didnt think that was funny at all actually.[/QUOTE]Yeah you would say that...[/QUOTE] I only laughed at the end when they jumped into the air and froze time lol other then that it wasnt really funny IMO.
Its funny because we all know everyone is crapping their pants that has launch consoles that wont be under warrenty anymore.
Mirrors edge PC>>>>>other ...
[URL]http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42962.html[/URL] it turns out the reason the PC version was delayed was so that Physx could be implememented into the game...and the new PC trailer demonstrates the new tech. anyone with an 8000 Series card or higher has access to Physx as long as all their software is updated. Mirrors edge PC%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;other ...
It's very impressive.Mirrors edge PC%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;other ...
Looks nice sure (don't have the game yet to compare) but... it doesn't look like it really effects the overall gameplay either. Of course the PC will look better, but really does it matter much if cloth and glass physics and the like aren't totally realistic in a game that's about running and it's level layout is more set in stoned for this game. (If the new game allowed you to manipulate objects on the fly and use them to make way for moving about the environment, then I could see this being more usefull.)
Wow, amazing, I just might get it :D
[QUOTE=''MKLOL'']Wow, amazing, I just might get it :D[/QUOTE] Agreed!When i have a couple more bucks.
It is pretty sweet. I hope there will be a demo for it.
Yeah after watchign that video it does look amazing, i wish they would have delayed the console versions for something like that
[QUOTE=''Animal-Mother'']Yeah after watchign that video it does look amazing, i wish they would have delayed the console versions for something like that[/QUOTE] The consoles cant do something like that....Physx isnt supported by any console.
Definitely picking up this version after a price drop.
it's settled i'm getting the PC version :)
:o Impressive!!
I'll wait for the demo. None of these fancy physx stuff can't convince me to buy, as it stands, a mediocre shooter.
[QUOTE=''IgGy621985'']I'll wait for the demo. None of these fancy physx stuff can't convince me to buy, as it stands, a mediocre shooter.[/QUOTE]it's not a shooter?
[QUOTE=''chikenfriedrice''][QUOTE=''IgGy621985'']I'll wait for the demo. None of these fancy physx stuff can't convince me to buy, as it stands, a mediocre shooter.[/QUOTE]it's not a shooter?[/QUOTE]okay, whatever. first person parkour-shooter combo thing...
I have been talking about stuff like this for a while, it is about time they actually implemented it.
[QUOTE=''cobrax75''] [QUOTE=''Animal-Mother'']Yeah after watchign that video it does look amazing, i wish they would have delayed the console versions for something like that[/QUOTE] The consoles cant do something like that....Physx isnt supported by any console. [/QUOTE]Really? I thought Physx is supported on the PS3.
Hardware accelerated PhysX was developed by Ageia to accelerated physics on a dedicated physics processing unit called a PPU, Nvidia later purchased Ageia and adapted their technology to run via CUDA; a GPGPU programming language supported on Nvidia 8 series and later. ATI created their own solution for GPU computing called CTM; but I have not seen it supported widely.Neither the Xbox 360 or PS3 are equipped with a GPU that supports this technology, their hardware was finalized long before its implementation. PhysX is both a hardware and software physics API, some people may confuse support of the software side on consoles as support for the hardware side as well.With support being in this game I guess Mirror's Edge used PhysX as their software physics API.
[QUOTE=''PS3_3DO''][QUOTE=''cobrax75''] [QUOTE=''Animal-Mother'']Yeah after watchign that video it does look amazing, i wish they would have delayed the console versions for something like that[/QUOTE] The consoles cant do something like that....Physx isnt supported by any console. [/QUOTE]Really? I thought Physx is supported on the PS3. [/QUOTE] PHysx is hardware based.
man you have to be such a graphix whore to care about that stuff. that really has nothing to do with how fun i would have.
We are getting MORE for LESS so why not be happy.At least it makes up for the wait!bloom-
It's very impressive.Mirrors edge PC%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;other ...
Looks nice sure (don't have the game yet to compare) but... it doesn't look like it really effects the overall gameplay either. Of course the PC will look better, but really does it matter much if cloth and glass physics and the like aren't totally realistic in a game that's about running and it's level layout is more set in stoned for this game. (If the new game allowed you to manipulate objects on the fly and use them to make way for moving about the environment, then I could see this being more usefull.)
Wow, amazing, I just might get it :D
[QUOTE=''MKLOL'']Wow, amazing, I just might get it :D[/QUOTE] Agreed!When i have a couple more bucks.
It is pretty sweet. I hope there will be a demo for it.
Yeah after watchign that video it does look amazing, i wish they would have delayed the console versions for something like that
[QUOTE=''Animal-Mother'']Yeah after watchign that video it does look amazing, i wish they would have delayed the console versions for something like that[/QUOTE] The consoles cant do something like that....Physx isnt supported by any console.
Definitely picking up this version after a price drop.
it's settled i'm getting the PC version :)
:o Impressive!!
I'll wait for the demo. None of these fancy physx stuff can't convince me to buy, as it stands, a mediocre shooter.
[QUOTE=''IgGy621985'']I'll wait for the demo. None of these fancy physx stuff can't convince me to buy, as it stands, a mediocre shooter.[/QUOTE]it's not a shooter?
[QUOTE=''chikenfriedrice''][QUOTE=''IgGy621985'']I'll wait for the demo. None of these fancy physx stuff can't convince me to buy, as it stands, a mediocre shooter.[/QUOTE]it's not a shooter?[/QUOTE]okay, whatever. first person parkour-shooter combo thing...
I have been talking about stuff like this for a while, it is about time they actually implemented it.
[QUOTE=''cobrax75''] [QUOTE=''Animal-Mother'']Yeah after watchign that video it does look amazing, i wish they would have delayed the console versions for something like that[/QUOTE] The consoles cant do something like that....Physx isnt supported by any console. [/QUOTE]Really? I thought Physx is supported on the PS3.
Hardware accelerated PhysX was developed by Ageia to accelerated physics on a dedicated physics processing unit called a PPU, Nvidia later purchased Ageia and adapted their technology to run via CUDA; a GPGPU programming language supported on Nvidia 8 series and later. ATI created their own solution for GPU computing called CTM; but I have not seen it supported widely.Neither the Xbox 360 or PS3 are equipped with a GPU that supports this technology, their hardware was finalized long before its implementation. PhysX is both a hardware and software physics API, some people may confuse support of the software side on consoles as support for the hardware side as well.With support being in this game I guess Mirror's Edge used PhysX as their software physics API.
[QUOTE=''PS3_3DO''][QUOTE=''cobrax75''] [QUOTE=''Animal-Mother'']Yeah after watchign that video it does look amazing, i wish they would have delayed the console versions for something like that[/QUOTE] The consoles cant do something like that....Physx isnt supported by any console. [/QUOTE]Really? I thought Physx is supported on the PS3. [/QUOTE] PHysx is hardware based.
man you have to be such a graphix whore to care about that stuff. that really has nothing to do with how fun i would have.
We are getting MORE for LESS so why not be happy.At least it makes up for the wait!
DS or PSP-Which is better
Which do you think is better?DS or PSP-Which is better
The PSP is a great system but it's good games are too far apart. The DS gets good games every month.If you can only buy one then I would recommend getting the DS. But try and get a PSP latter. DS or PSP-Which is better
I have a PSP and a DS. I currently like my PSP more. Maybe I would feel differently if I had bought the DS first?
Having both is better.
the psp has more functionality so i would go with that. and just to let you know this thread will attract all the sheep left in SW, so the poll will be one-sided most likely
It really depends what you want.Get a ds for a great game library. Get a psp for a movie/music player and some decent games.I currently have both.
DS
Fresh, design, games:
-FF IV
-The world ends with You
-Professor Layton
-Castlevania Order of Ecclesia
-GRID
-Civilisation revolution
-Trauma Center: utk2
-Ninja Gaiden: ds
-FF XII: rw
-Bleach: ds
-Air traffic chaos
-Disgaea DS
-Lock's Quest
-Dragon Quest IV: qotc
-N+
Compared to:
-Crisis Core: FFVII
-Patapon
-God of war: coo
-N+
-Secret Agent Clank
-Wipeout Pulse
-Echocrome
-Puzzle Guzzle
-Flatout: ho
-Downstream Panic
-Pursuit Force: ej
-SOCOM: unsts
-Star Wars: tfu
-Space Invaders Extreme
-Hot Shots Golf: ot2
lol
PSP, hands down. It just has more substance to it.
DS.
DS is really good, but I prefer PSP.
Have both, prefer PSP. Aside from the Advance Wars games, I've never really used my DS that much.
Da PsP mang, me and my bros play that all day long.
its got god of war and socom, you cant go wrong with that.
I prefer the Nintendo DS much more than the PSP simply because there is just a more array of variety in it gaming library than what the PSP offer. The design looks better in my opinion because of how sleek it look and not to mention it is much smaller and more portable. PSP might have all the multimedia that the DS don't have but I feel those features are really unnecessary for an handheld.
psp hands down
PSP, it has small, but good gaming libary then you can use it for music, videos, pictures and internet!
PSP hands down. Music + gaming in a handheld device is awesome.
psp for me
psp for me
It depends if your going to take the advantages of the multimedia functions of the PSP. If your playing it for the games, either one should should suffice. It just depends on what kind of games you like. If your gonna use it to play games and watch pictures, videos, etc. go with the PSP.
I will go with the PSP.
The PSP is a great system but it's good games are too far apart. The DS gets good games every month.If you can only buy one then I would recommend getting the DS. But try and get a PSP latter. DS or PSP-Which is better
I have a PSP and a DS. I currently like my PSP more. Maybe I would feel differently if I had bought the DS first?
Having both is better.
the psp has more functionality so i would go with that. and just to let you know this thread will attract all the sheep left in SW, so the poll will be one-sided most likely
It really depends what you want.Get a ds for a great game library. Get a psp for a movie/music player and some decent games.I currently have both.
DS
Fresh, design, games:
-FF IV
-The world ends with You
-Professor Layton
-Castlevania Order of Ecclesia
-GRID
-Civilisation revolution
-Trauma Center: utk2
-Ninja Gaiden: ds
-FF XII: rw
-Bleach: ds
-Air traffic chaos
-Disgaea DS
-Lock's Quest
-Dragon Quest IV: qotc
-N+
Compared to:
-Crisis Core: FFVII
-Patapon
-God of war: coo
-N+
-Secret Agent Clank
-Wipeout Pulse
-Echocrome
-Puzzle Guzzle
-Flatout: ho
-Downstream Panic
-Pursuit Force: ej
-SOCOM: unsts
-Star Wars: tfu
-Space Invaders Extreme
-Hot Shots Golf: ot2
lol
PSP, hands down. It just has more substance to it.
DS.
DS is really good, but I prefer PSP.
Have both, prefer PSP. Aside from the Advance Wars games, I've never really used my DS that much.
Da PsP mang, me and my bros play that all day long.
its got god of war and socom, you cant go wrong with that.
I prefer the Nintendo DS much more than the PSP simply because there is just a more array of variety in it gaming library than what the PSP offer. The design looks better in my opinion because of how sleek it look and not to mention it is much smaller and more portable. PSP might have all the multimedia that the DS don't have but I feel those features are really unnecessary for an handheld.
psp hands down
PSP, it has small, but good gaming libary then you can use it for music, videos, pictures and internet!
PSP hands down. Music + gaming in a handheld device is awesome.
psp for me
psp for me
It depends if your going to take the advantages of the multimedia functions of the PSP. If your playing it for the games, either one should should suffice. It just depends on what kind of games you like. If your gonna use it to play games and watch pictures, videos, etc. go with the PSP.
I will go with the PSP.
TF2, and now L4D...
Two valve shooters that will continue to thrive and be fun years from now while other, AAA shooters die off, both receiving an 8.5. I must be missing something. TF2, and now L4D...
Patience, we haven't seen the PC review yet.TF2, and now L4D...
And both reviewed by Chris Watters... He must not like Valve :P
mmmmm i personally dissagree their good games for sure but id rather play cod 4 or gears 2 :P
9 hours so far clocked on the game and I have only beaten the first campaign, and got into the beginning of the 2nd level in the next campaign. This game is a 9.5 in my book as a multiplayer game. Its a really unique game thats very fun, as well as unpredictable.. A few things I hope they add besides the odvious of more campaigns... More weapons.. I would love to see dual Desert Eagles, Chainsaw, as well as a few otehr weapons added officially to the game. The variety is rather weak, Achievement unlocked items or abilkites woudl be cool too.. Last but not least I would like to see a survival mode where you defend a building or osmething (bunker, house etc etc) agianst wave after wave of zombies.. Limited health, limited ammo, 5 minute prep time or something to move around stuff like barricades, barb wire etc etc.. That would be great.
[QUOTE=''ice144'']Two valve shooters that will continue to thrive and be fun years from now while other, AAA shooters die off, both receiving an 8.5. I must be missing something. [/QUOTE] that pissed me off, there r barely anybody playing teamfortess 2, it might happen to left 3 dead :( i liked both games.
Only 4 maps. It's a good enough reason to dock it. An 8.5 is still an great game. I think it's fair.
I think the fact that both on them are multiplayer focussed its actually pretty good scores, how many single/multiplayer games have you seen get under those scores, a heck of a lot i'm sure, i'm sure it'll die off quickly with console fanboys but those games will thrive on pc.
[QUOTE=''heretrix'']Only 4 maps. It's a good enough reason to dock it. An 8.5 is still an great game. I think it's fair.[/QUOTE] I believe it is fair as well, but not to such a low score(not low by ANY means, just low when compared to other mp games), especially with the amount of time that people have already put into the game, without even needing to touch versus mode, which imo is the mode that will be the reason the game will thrive. [QUOTE=''iam2green''][QUOTE=''ice144'']Two valve shooters that will continue to thrive and be fun years from now while other, AAA shooters die off, both receiving an 8.5. I must be missing something. [/QUOTE] that pissed me off, there r barely anybody playing teamfortess 2, it might happen to left 3 dead :( i liked both games. [/QUOTE] You must be playing tf2 on the 360.
[QUOTE=''heretrix'']Only 4 maps. It's a good enough reason to dock it. An 8.5 is still an great game. I think it's fair.[/QUOTE]
4 campaigns, 20 maps.
While it sounds short it took me over two hours to complete a campaign. And then you add in the repeatability and.....
left 4 dead is kinda falling apart on meall of my damn friends said they would get it first day. instead, only one does. and that one friends doesn't like being a survivor, so all he does is versus.....I WANNA SEE THE OTHER LEVELS. damn man, the game is crazy replayable but only granted you don't do the same level over and over and over again. I mean, you have to mix it up to keep it fresh (all we ever f'ing do is blood harvest). now i'm stucking playing with this guy and complete strangers, which isn't nearly as much fun as it would be playing with 3 good friends (as i did during the demo)the demo rocked cause i was with all of my friends, but until my friends get off their asses and buy it (they all have the money, they just keep making up excuses to why they don't just go out and buy it) the game is gonna get boring for me fast
[QUOTE=''heretrix'']Only 4 maps. It's a good enough reason to dock it. An 8.5 is still an great game. I think it's fair.[/QUOTE]20 maps actually. They're just divided by 4 campaigns. It could be short if you play on normal. But on expert or even advanced it'll take much longer. It is a fair score though.
[QUOTE=''mo0ksi''][QUOTE=''heretrix'']Only 4 maps. It's a good enough reason to dock it. An 8.5 is still an great game. I think it's fair.[/QUOTE]20 maps actually. They're just divided by 4 campaigns. It could be short if you play on normal. But on expert or even advanced it'll take much longer. It is a fair score though.[/QUOTE]My bad. Thanks for pointing that out. Thanks to you too, Ibacai. I stand corrected.
[QUOTE=''heretrix''] [QUOTE=''mo0ksi''][QUOTE=''heretrix'']Only 4 maps. It's a good enough reason to dock it. An 8.5 is still an great game. I think it's fair.[/QUOTE]20 maps actually. They're just divided by 4 campaigns. It could be short if you play on normal. But on expert or even advanced it'll take much longer. It is a fair score though.[/QUOTE]My bad. Thanks for pointing that out. Thanks to you too, Ibacai. I stand corrected.[/QUOTE] Yeah really the idiots need to stop playing this game at normal and go expert, or at very least advanced..
[QUOTE=''iam2green''][QUOTE=''ice144'']Two valve shooters that will continue to thrive and be fun years from now while other, AAA shooters die off, both receiving an 8.5. I must be missing something. [/QUOTE] that pissed me off, there r barely anybody playing teamfortess 2, it might happen to left 3 dead :( i liked both games. [/QUOTE] their are tons of people on the PC version of the game.(tf2 I mean)
MP-only games, despite being designed solely for multiplayer, are some how inherently worse for not offering a competent singleplayer yet SP-only games are not effected by not offering multiplayer at all.
It's the way things are unfortunately.
[QUOTE=''heretrix''][QUOTE=''mo0ksi''][QUOTE=''heretrix'']Only 4 maps. It's a good enough reason to dock it. An 8.5 is still an great game. I think it's fair.[/QUOTE]20 maps actually. They're just divided by 4 campaigns. It could be short if you play on normal. But on expert or even advanced it'll take much longer. It is a fair score though.[/QUOTE]My bad. Thanks for pointing that out. Thanks to you too, Ibacai. I stand corrected.[/QUOTE]
No worries, you can only go by what reviewers say if you haven't played the game so fair enough.
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Clocked in 29 hours in game and demo, only thing I have to say is we need more flippin weapons
[QUOTE=''foxhound_fox'']MP-only games, despite being designed solely for multiplayer, are some how inherently worse for not offering a competent singleplayer yet SP-only games are not effected by not offering multiplayer at all.
It's the way things are unfortunately.[/QUOTE]Quoted for truth.
Patience, we haven't seen the PC review yet.TF2, and now L4D...
And both reviewed by Chris Watters... He must not like Valve :P
mmmmm i personally dissagree their good games for sure but id rather play cod 4 or gears 2 :P
9 hours so far clocked on the game and I have only beaten the first campaign, and got into the beginning of the 2nd level in the next campaign. This game is a 9.5 in my book as a multiplayer game. Its a really unique game thats very fun, as well as unpredictable.. A few things I hope they add besides the odvious of more campaigns... More weapons.. I would love to see dual Desert Eagles, Chainsaw, as well as a few otehr weapons added officially to the game. The variety is rather weak, Achievement unlocked items or abilkites woudl be cool too.. Last but not least I would like to see a survival mode where you defend a building or osmething (bunker, house etc etc) agianst wave after wave of zombies.. Limited health, limited ammo, 5 minute prep time or something to move around stuff like barricades, barb wire etc etc.. That would be great.
[QUOTE=''ice144'']Two valve shooters that will continue to thrive and be fun years from now while other, AAA shooters die off, both receiving an 8.5. I must be missing something. [/QUOTE] that pissed me off, there r barely anybody playing teamfortess 2, it might happen to left 3 dead :( i liked both games.
Only 4 maps. It's a good enough reason to dock it. An 8.5 is still an great game. I think it's fair.
I think the fact that both on them are multiplayer focussed its actually pretty good scores, how many single/multiplayer games have you seen get under those scores, a heck of a lot i'm sure, i'm sure it'll die off quickly with console fanboys but those games will thrive on pc.
[QUOTE=''heretrix'']Only 4 maps. It's a good enough reason to dock it. An 8.5 is still an great game. I think it's fair.[/QUOTE] I believe it is fair as well, but not to such a low score(not low by ANY means, just low when compared to other mp games), especially with the amount of time that people have already put into the game, without even needing to touch versus mode, which imo is the mode that will be the reason the game will thrive. [QUOTE=''iam2green''][QUOTE=''ice144'']Two valve shooters that will continue to thrive and be fun years from now while other, AAA shooters die off, both receiving an 8.5. I must be missing something. [/QUOTE] that pissed me off, there r barely anybody playing teamfortess 2, it might happen to left 3 dead :( i liked both games. [/QUOTE] You must be playing tf2 on the 360.
[QUOTE=''heretrix'']Only 4 maps. It's a good enough reason to dock it. An 8.5 is still an great game. I think it's fair.[/QUOTE]
4 campaigns, 20 maps.
While it sounds short it took me over two hours to complete a campaign. And then you add in the repeatability and.....
left 4 dead is kinda falling apart on meall of my damn friends said they would get it first day. instead, only one does. and that one friends doesn't like being a survivor, so all he does is versus.....I WANNA SEE THE OTHER LEVELS. damn man, the game is crazy replayable but only granted you don't do the same level over and over and over again. I mean, you have to mix it up to keep it fresh (all we ever f'ing do is blood harvest). now i'm stucking playing with this guy and complete strangers, which isn't nearly as much fun as it would be playing with 3 good friends (as i did during the demo)the demo rocked cause i was with all of my friends, but until my friends get off their asses and buy it (they all have the money, they just keep making up excuses to why they don't just go out and buy it) the game is gonna get boring for me fast
[QUOTE=''heretrix'']Only 4 maps. It's a good enough reason to dock it. An 8.5 is still an great game. I think it's fair.[/QUOTE]20 maps actually. They're just divided by 4 campaigns. It could be short if you play on normal. But on expert or even advanced it'll take much longer. It is a fair score though.
[QUOTE=''mo0ksi''][QUOTE=''heretrix'']Only 4 maps. It's a good enough reason to dock it. An 8.5 is still an great game. I think it's fair.[/QUOTE]20 maps actually. They're just divided by 4 campaigns. It could be short if you play on normal. But on expert or even advanced it'll take much longer. It is a fair score though.[/QUOTE]My bad. Thanks for pointing that out. Thanks to you too, Ibacai. I stand corrected.
[QUOTE=''heretrix''] [QUOTE=''mo0ksi''][QUOTE=''heretrix'']Only 4 maps. It's a good enough reason to dock it. An 8.5 is still an great game. I think it's fair.[/QUOTE]20 maps actually. They're just divided by 4 campaigns. It could be short if you play on normal. But on expert or even advanced it'll take much longer. It is a fair score though.[/QUOTE]My bad. Thanks for pointing that out. Thanks to you too, Ibacai. I stand corrected.[/QUOTE] Yeah really the idiots need to stop playing this game at normal and go expert, or at very least advanced..
[QUOTE=''iam2green''][QUOTE=''ice144'']Two valve shooters that will continue to thrive and be fun years from now while other, AAA shooters die off, both receiving an 8.5. I must be missing something. [/QUOTE] that pissed me off, there r barely anybody playing teamfortess 2, it might happen to left 3 dead :( i liked both games. [/QUOTE] their are tons of people on the PC version of the game.(tf2 I mean)
MP-only games, despite being designed solely for multiplayer, are some how inherently worse for not offering a competent singleplayer yet SP-only games are not effected by not offering multiplayer at all.
It's the way things are unfortunately.
[QUOTE=''heretrix''][QUOTE=''mo0ksi''][QUOTE=''heretrix'']Only 4 maps. It's a good enough reason to dock it. An 8.5 is still an great game. I think it's fair.[/QUOTE]20 maps actually. They're just divided by 4 campaigns. It could be short if you play on normal. But on expert or even advanced it'll take much longer. It is a fair score though.[/QUOTE]My bad. Thanks for pointing that out. Thanks to you too, Ibacai. I stand corrected.[/QUOTE]
No worries, you can only go by what reviewers say if you haven't played the game so fair enough.
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Clocked in 29 hours in game and demo, only thing I have to say is we need more flippin weapons
[QUOTE=''foxhound_fox'']MP-only games, despite being designed solely for multiplayer, are some how inherently worse for not offering a competent singleplayer yet SP-only games are not effected by not offering multiplayer at all.
It's the way things are unfortunately.[/QUOTE]Quoted for truth.
Reggie says Third Parties Dont Get it
Speaking to Forbes, Fils-Aime conceded that the Wii hosts a range of third-party titles which, with a few exceptions, largely do not exemplify quality software for the platform. The reason for this, he says, is that certain developers and publishers still don't 'get' the Wii's design philosophy.
''I will be able to say our licensees 'get it' when their very best content is on our platform,'' he says. ''And with very few exceptions today, that's not the case.''
Some observers note that a shortage of compelling third-party software has been a blight of a number of Nintendo TV consoles across the years, such as the GameCube and N64, with Nintendo's own output traditionally showcasing what those consoles can offer to a consumer.'' Source: http://www.edge-online.com/news/fils-aime-third-parties-don%E2%80%99t-%E2%80%9Cget-it%E2%80%9D Reggie says Third Parties Dont Get it
dev's do get it, but whats the point of putting games with violence, and other mature oriented themes on a system where only 80 year old grandpas, and soccermoms play.Reggie says Third Parties Dont Get it
Maybe 3rd parties don't want to take wii seriously.
He doesn't get it.
ya 3rd parties need to make moar games like mii sports.......
He's being delusional.
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3rd. party devs aren't putting the effort needed into the Wii. Effort is needed; not halfway crap.
[QUOTE=''Fizzman'']dev's do get it, but whats the point of putting games with violence, and other mature oriented themes on a system where only 80 year old grandpas, and soccermoms play.[/QUOTE] What's the point of putting colorful, artistic games like de Blob, Valkyria Chronicles, and Viva Pinata on a system where only latchkey teenagers with too much adrenaline and moronic frat boys want to kill things? See, I can play the system stereotype game too! I do feel dirty now typing something that narrow minded. I do wonder if Reggie along with the rest of Nintendo have considered, oh, I don't know, reaching out to a few third party developers about using the system? Perhaps helping them along with concepts? They have great first party games, and quite a few gems in the third party department, but it could be so much better.
When I see the man who created the master piece Super Mario Galaxy waste his efforts on Wii Music while also seeing that Disaster Day of Crisis may not come out in the U.S coupled with the fact that we don't know who Retro Studiios is doing, with the addition of not getting anything exciting for Christmas.I say Reggie is right in the same boat with the rest of the 3rd Parties.
[QUOTE=''Fizzman'']dev's do get it, but whats the point of putting games with violence, and other mature oriented themes on a system where only 80 year old grandpas, and soccermoms play.[/QUOTE] Because that's not true at all. Dev's think that, but the demographics are totally diffrent.
It's not that they don't get it, it's just that they
I heard something today which basically awnseres this question.I was t work today and 2 women were talking, one says ''I just got wii fit a few days ago for the wii, its really good and my husband likes it''And there we have it, middle aged women, thats what nintendos attracting, well they said they were creating a new market.Middle aged woman... violence... You just cant put those two things in the same sentence really can you? :
|I believe that 3rd party developers believe that Wii owners don't expect much out of their games, in other words very high Q games. This is why they put very little effort into their games. Every system has its level of acceptable games. There is also the fact that third party developers feel like their games will sell really bad when put against nintendo games. Heck, no more heroes only sold 250K and got a 9.0, Wairo ware which can be finished within one day sold 2.5Million. Even the game 50 cent sold 1.5M and it was just released within the USA.
[QUOTE=''Kratos_OMEGA'']
Speaking to Forbes, Fils-Aime conceded that the Wii hosts a range of third-party titles which, with a few exceptions, largely do not exemplify quality software for the platform. The reason for this, he says, is that certain developers and publishers still don't 'get' the Wii's design philosophy.
''I will be able to say our licensees 'get it' when their very best content is on our platform,'' he says. ''And with very few exceptions today, that's not the case.''
Some observers note that a shortage of compelling third-party software has been a blight of a number of Nintendo TV consoles across the years, such as the GameCube and N64, with Nintendo's own output traditionally showcasing what those consoles can offer to a consumer.'' Source: http://www.edge-online.com/news/fils-aime-third-parties-don%E2%80%99t-%E2%80%9Cget-it%E2%80%9D [/QUOTE]That's exactly what I've been thinking for the past year.
[QUOTE=''Nirron''][QUOTE=''Fizzman'']dev's do get it, but whats the point of putting games with violence, and other mature oriented themes on a system where only 80 year old grandpas, and soccermoms play.[/QUOTE] What's the point of putting colorful, artistic games like de Blob, Valkyria Chronicles, and Viva Pinata on a system where only latchkey teenagers with too much adrenaline and moronic frat boys want to kill things? See, I can play the system stereotype game too! I do feel dirty now typing something that narrow minded. I do wonder if Reggie along with the rest of Nintendo have considered, oh, I don't know, reaching out to a few third party developers about using the system? Perhaps helping them along with concepts? They have great first party games, and quite a few gems in the third party department, but it could be so much better. [/QUOTE] They have. Before the Wii launched, Reggie was at Take Two HQ talking to them about the system and asking them to put GTA on the Wii. Nintendo has gone to GDC to talk to developers and even Miyamoto has gone to several devs to give them help on their games.What else are they supposed to do? 3rd party devs just aren't putting their best teams towards making games for the Wii.
[QUOTE=''NinjaMunkey01'']Middle aged woman... violence... You just cant put those two things in the same sentence really can you? :|[/QUOTE] ->Insert PMS or Menopause joke here
[QUOTE=''zaku101'']I believe that 3rd party developers believe that Wii owners don't expect much out of their games, in other words very high Q games. This is why they put very little effort into their games. Every system has its level of acceptable games. There is also the fact that third party developers feel like their games will sell really bad when put against nintendo games. Heck, no more heroes only sold 250K and got a 9.0, Wairo ware which can be finished within one day sold 2.5Million. Even the game 50 cent sold 1.5M and it was just released within the USA.[/QUOTE] No More Heroes sold 400k worldwide and was Suda 51's best selling game ever. Please stop talking out of your behind.
[QUOTE=''fugwit''][QUOTE=''NinjaMunkey01''] Middle aged woman... violence... You just cant put those two things in the same sentence really can you? :|[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] ok... if you say so...
Lol. Nintendo don't get it because of the flopping 3rd party sales of 90% of 3rd party games that come on the wii.
[POLL] Best Multiplayer Shooter of the Y ...
Sorry if this has been done recently, wondering which game SW thinks is Multiplayer Shooter of the Year. So this just means online shooters only, regardless of how great the campaigns are or maybe, throw it out the window, it's strictly about multiplayer.- Gears 2- Resistance 2- COD:WaW- L4D- MGONOT ON THE POLL: - Far Cry- SOCOM 4 (it flopped anyway, but I still liked it) [POLL] Best Multiplayer Shooter of the Y ...
L4D fanboys will be pissed[POLL] Best Multiplayer Shooter of the Y ...
[QUOTE=''-Mad_Rhetoric-'']L4D fanboys will be pissed[/QUOTE] Is that game multiplayer? My bad I didn't know
gears 2. horde can get pretty intense and it's really fun yelling ''don't be a hero'' to teammates.
Resistance 2 has the most robust multiplayer and co-op, so I'm goin w/ that.
L4D
lulz atteh pollfc2 %26 mgo ?!? :lol:and where is l4d ?
gears 2 is far from the forefront for any competitive FPS fan. From a fun factor standpoint it goes to L4D by a LARGE margin.
Left 4 Dead hands down. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.
Horde mode alone beats any mode the others offer. Most intense game mode ever even on normal difficulty, even crazier on hardcore/insane. None of the other games can match the necessary teamwork and skill to complete horde.
Resistance 2 online coop takes the cake. After that probably Left4Dead online coop. Followed by Gears online. They are the only ones that should relly be in the running
How Can I vote when left 4 dead isn't on here?
[QUOTE=''hopesfall2own'']Horde mode alone beats any mode the others offer. Most intense game mode ever even on normal difficulty, even crazier on hardcore/insane. None of the other games can match the necessary teamwork and skill to complete horde. [/QUOTE] I disagree, R2's co-op needs teamwork as well, but I can't really compare to Gears 2 because I haven't played it yet.
[QUOTE=''peeviness'']L4D[/QUOTE]This
[QUOTE=''Jodan77'']How Can I vote when left 4 dead isn't on here?[/QUOTE] Sorry, I didn't realize it was a multiplayer and I couldn't edit the poll...
L4D, no contest.
[QUOTE=''nuge004''][QUOTE=''hopesfall2own'']Horde mode alone beats any mode the others offer. Most intense game mode ever even on normal difficulty, even crazier on hardcore/insane. None of the other games can match the necessary teamwork and skill to complete horde. [/QUOTE] I disagree, R2's co-op needs teamwork as well, but I can't really compare to Gears 2 because I haven't played it yet. [/QUOTE]Don't bother with someone who hasn't played R2. The classes are essential for teamwork in R2 coop, else you can't do anything. Its why its tops IMO
There is no Left 4 Dead in the poll yet Metal Gear Online is there?This thread lacks any sort of win.
I am surprised someone voted for MGO because I thought it was passable and that is it.
Gears2I have fun playing all the game modes on it, Horde mode being the best.
L4D fanboys will be pissed[POLL] Best Multiplayer Shooter of the Y ...
[QUOTE=''-Mad_Rhetoric-'']L4D fanboys will be pissed[/QUOTE] Is that game multiplayer? My bad I didn't know
gears 2. horde can get pretty intense and it's really fun yelling ''don't be a hero'' to teammates.
Resistance 2 has the most robust multiplayer and co-op, so I'm goin w/ that.
L4D
lulz atteh pollfc2 %26 mgo ?!? :lol:and where is l4d ?
gears 2 is far from the forefront for any competitive FPS fan. From a fun factor standpoint it goes to L4D by a LARGE margin.
Left 4 Dead hands down. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.
Horde mode alone beats any mode the others offer. Most intense game mode ever even on normal difficulty, even crazier on hardcore/insane. None of the other games can match the necessary teamwork and skill to complete horde.
Resistance 2 online coop takes the cake. After that probably Left4Dead online coop. Followed by Gears online. They are the only ones that should relly be in the running
How Can I vote when left 4 dead isn't on here?
[QUOTE=''hopesfall2own'']Horde mode alone beats any mode the others offer. Most intense game mode ever even on normal difficulty, even crazier on hardcore/insane. None of the other games can match the necessary teamwork and skill to complete horde. [/QUOTE] I disagree, R2's co-op needs teamwork as well, but I can't really compare to Gears 2 because I haven't played it yet.
[QUOTE=''peeviness'']L4D[/QUOTE]This
[QUOTE=''Jodan77'']How Can I vote when left 4 dead isn't on here?[/QUOTE] Sorry, I didn't realize it was a multiplayer and I couldn't edit the poll...
L4D, no contest.
[QUOTE=''nuge004''][QUOTE=''hopesfall2own'']Horde mode alone beats any mode the others offer. Most intense game mode ever even on normal difficulty, even crazier on hardcore/insane. None of the other games can match the necessary teamwork and skill to complete horde. [/QUOTE] I disagree, R2's co-op needs teamwork as well, but I can't really compare to Gears 2 because I haven't played it yet. [/QUOTE]Don't bother with someone who hasn't played R2. The classes are essential for teamwork in R2 coop, else you can't do anything. Its why its tops IMO
There is no Left 4 Dead in the poll yet Metal Gear Online is there?This thread lacks any sort of win.
I am surprised someone voted for MGO because I thought it was passable and that is it.
Gears2I have fun playing all the game modes on it, Horde mode being the best.
What PC tower is needed to get same grap ...
Question...What PC tower is needed to get same grap ...
all of those setups destroy consoles. you can equal a consoles graphics with like a 7800gtx, 1gig ram and the lowest end c2d.What PC tower is needed to get same grap ...
[QUOTE=''blues3531'']all of those setups destroy consoles. you can equal a consoles graphics with like a 7800gtx, 1gig ram and the lowest end c2d.[/QUOTE]Pretty much.
try a 7900 GT 1GB of ram and a pentium 4
The first two destroy consoles. This poll is awful.
Any of those easily does. 256MB 7800, 1GB RAM, and a low end dual core prettymuch matches the consoles graphically. At least PS3 has a unique and powerful CPU for the future though.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00'']The first two destroy consoles. This poll is awful.[/QUOTE]Youre right i forgot to mention with the graphics improvement of console games and demanding ports in mind...
The first 2 destroy consoles.....The last one is what you need to equal console graphics...
[QUOTE=''Heydanbud92'']try a 7900 GT 1GB of ram and a pentium 4[/QUOTE]Yeah like 7900GS, 7900GT, X1900GT, X1950PRO. But I'd prefer a AMD 64 over a crappy P4. ;)
Since the consoles in general runs on lower resolution is it preatty easy to match.A X1950PRO is today a $100 card.
But I'd rather get a cheap core 2 duo (overclock it), 2GB RAM and a 8800GT. That would crush any of the consoles and to a nice price.
[QUOTE=''-AK47-'']The first 2 destroy consoles.....The last one is what you need to equal console graphics...[/QUOTE]Joke post?That PC has 2GB of RAM. and a x1950xtx, It's far superior to any console.
LOL You don't really need much to out class, let alone match, the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360.
People seems to think that both the 360 and the PS3 are performance monsters. But to run a PC game at the same resolution and with the same graphical detail isn't that demanding.
Let me see most games on the console dont even run at 720p and have week AA.... So I guess:- AMDx2 Athlon 3800+- 1 GB 677Mhz RAM- X1950proA PC would those specs cheap case, hard drive, mother baord will set you back ?00 -?00... so you wouldn't pay much more than a PS3 or an Elite.... kinda makes the PC's expensive arguement look stupid.
All of those gpu's destroy consoles, a 1900xt is about as close as you can get.
[QUOTE=''blues3531'']all of those setups destroy consoles. you can equal a consoles graphics with like a 7800gtx, 1gig ram and the lowest end c2d.[/QUOTE]yeah, true
Console render at 1280*720 (hell, MANY games lower res then that). Crysis can be run on high with a X1950XT at that res.
[QUOTE=''blues3531'']all of those setups destroy consoles. you can equal a consoles graphics with like a 7800gtx, 1gig ram and the lowest end c2d.[/QUOTE]your first mistake is thinking there the same. For example GOW2 on ps2 couldn't be done on an equivalent PC and later on in this generation consoles you can expect too see the same trend.
It should reallybe between the 1950XT and the 8800GT..Its closer too 1950XT though..
That is a loaded question. You could have bumped an old thread, because this is exactly like the rest.
[QUOTE=''Cali3350'']Console render at 1280*720 (hell, MANY games lower res then that). Crysis can be run on high with a X1950XT at that res.[/QUOTE]Crysis can be run at high with that res with the GTX at a good framerate (40 or so).
all of those setups destroy consoles. you can equal a consoles graphics with like a 7800gtx, 1gig ram and the lowest end c2d.What PC tower is needed to get same grap ...
[QUOTE=''blues3531'']all of those setups destroy consoles. you can equal a consoles graphics with like a 7800gtx, 1gig ram and the lowest end c2d.[/QUOTE]Pretty much.
try a 7900 GT 1GB of ram and a pentium 4
The first two destroy consoles. This poll is awful.
Any of those easily does. 256MB 7800, 1GB RAM, and a low end dual core prettymuch matches the consoles graphically. At least PS3 has a unique and powerful CPU for the future though.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00'']The first two destroy consoles. This poll is awful.[/QUOTE]Youre right i forgot to mention with the graphics improvement of console games and demanding ports in mind...
The first 2 destroy consoles.....The last one is what you need to equal console graphics...
[QUOTE=''Heydanbud92'']try a 7900 GT 1GB of ram and a pentium 4[/QUOTE]Yeah like 7900GS, 7900GT, X1900GT, X1950PRO. But I'd prefer a AMD 64 over a crappy P4. ;)
Since the consoles in general runs on lower resolution is it preatty easy to match.A X1950PRO is today a $100 card.
But I'd rather get a cheap core 2 duo (overclock it), 2GB RAM and a 8800GT. That would crush any of the consoles and to a nice price.
[QUOTE=''-AK47-'']The first 2 destroy consoles.....The last one is what you need to equal console graphics...[/QUOTE]Joke post?That PC has 2GB of RAM. and a x1950xtx, It's far superior to any console.
LOL You don't really need much to out class, let alone match, the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360.
People seems to think that both the 360 and the PS3 are performance monsters. But to run a PC game at the same resolution and with the same graphical detail isn't that demanding.
Let me see most games on the console dont even run at 720p and have week AA.... So I guess:- AMDx2 Athlon 3800+- 1 GB 677Mhz RAM- X1950proA PC would those specs cheap case, hard drive, mother baord will set you back ?00 -?00... so you wouldn't pay much more than a PS3 or an Elite.... kinda makes the PC's expensive arguement look stupid.
All of those gpu's destroy consoles, a 1900xt is about as close as you can get.
[QUOTE=''blues3531'']all of those setups destroy consoles. you can equal a consoles graphics with like a 7800gtx, 1gig ram and the lowest end c2d.[/QUOTE]yeah, true
Console render at 1280*720 (hell, MANY games lower res then that). Crysis can be run on high with a X1950XT at that res.
[QUOTE=''blues3531'']all of those setups destroy consoles. you can equal a consoles graphics with like a 7800gtx, 1gig ram and the lowest end c2d.[/QUOTE]your first mistake is thinking there the same. For example GOW2 on ps2 couldn't be done on an equivalent PC and later on in this generation consoles you can expect too see the same trend.
It should reallybe between the 1950XT and the 8800GT..Its closer too 1950XT though..
That is a loaded question. You could have bumped an old thread, because this is exactly like the rest.
[QUOTE=''Cali3350'']Console render at 1280*720 (hell, MANY games lower res then that). Crysis can be run on high with a X1950XT at that res.[/QUOTE]Crysis can be run at high with that res with the GTX at a good framerate (40 or so).
How did you buy left4dead or going to bu ...
topic says it all, i got it off steamHow did you buy left4dead or going to bu ...
I'm not buying it because I need money, and I don't know much about the game. How did you buy left4dead or going to bu ...
Steam. I find purchasing and playing games almost instantly while in my comfy chair much more appealing than wasting an hour travelling to EB games.
I got it on steam and might buy a copy for 360 later on down the road aswell.Online GOTY imo!
PC Retail.I'm one of those ''old geezers'' who just loves having a physical product, even if it ends up being tied to Steam in the end...
steam
I'll buy it when I have the cash money. I already spent my dollar bills on gears of war 2.
Steam!Though I haven't purchased it yet.
STEAM. I don't like buying hard copies of PC games anymore. Unless I can get it at a killer deal.
360 rental.
PC retail. I like my boxes.
I returned Resistance 2 and got a gift card and I will use that gift card to fully pay for the 360 retail of Left 4 Dead the better first person shooter game of the season.
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']I returned Resistance 2 and got a gift card and I will use that gift card to fully pay for the 360 retail of Left 4 Dead the better first person shooter game of the season. [/QUOTE] Weren't you originally Sceptical of the game? If so :D
[QUOTE=''Locke562''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']I returned Resistance 2 and got a gift card and I will use that gift card to fully pay for the 360 retail of Left 4 Dead the better first person shooter game of the season. [/QUOTE] Weren't you originally Sceptical of the game? If so :D [/QUOTE] I think you got that confused of me saying I was skeptical about Huxley but I did however state that if Left 4 Dead gets an 8.5 here is that I am happy with that.
Not buying, hated the demo.. Mark my words, this will be the type of game where after a month when you go into gamestop you will see A LOT of used copies of it because people will realize it was way overhyped, not worth the full purchase price and not enough content.. Kind of like what happened with GTA IV, I Remember a month after it came out I went to gamestop and i saw almost 30 used GTA IV cases on the shelves, tons of people traded it in.
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Steam today, 360 later this year.
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''][QUOTE=''Locke562''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']I returned Resistance 2 and got a gift card and I will use that gift card to fully pay for the 360 retail of Left 4 Dead the better first person shooter game of the season. [/QUOTE] Weren't you originally Sceptical of the game? If so :D [/QUOTE] I think you got that confused of me saying I was skeptical about Huxley but I did however state that if Left 4 Dead gets an 8.5 here is that I am happy with that. [/QUOTE] Ah, I think I might have been confusing you with someone else then. Not sure who it is though... And yes, I agree. I'm totally skeptical of Huxley as well.
PC retail for me.Just got back from playing. We were so damn close in completing the end of No Mercy.
[QUOTE=''CODjon84'']Not buying, hated the demo.. Mark my words, this will be the type of game where after a month when you go into gamestop you will see A LOT of used copies of it because people will realize it was way overhyped, not worth the full purchase price and not enough content.. Kind of like what happened with GTA IV, I Remember a month after it came out I went to gamestop and i saw almost 30 used GTA IV cases on the shelves, tons of people traded it in. [/QUOTE]Maybe 360 copies but rest assured. Next year there will still be numerous people still playing it on the PC. Free Valve content and mods will also contribute to it's longetivity.bloom-
I'm not buying it because I need money, and I don't know much about the game. How did you buy left4dead or going to bu ...
Steam. I find purchasing and playing games almost instantly while in my comfy chair much more appealing than wasting an hour travelling to EB games.
I got it on steam and might buy a copy for 360 later on down the road aswell.Online GOTY imo!
PC Retail.I'm one of those ''old geezers'' who just loves having a physical product, even if it ends up being tied to Steam in the end...
steam
I'll buy it when I have the cash money. I already spent my dollar bills on gears of war 2.
Steam!Though I haven't purchased it yet.
STEAM. I don't like buying hard copies of PC games anymore. Unless I can get it at a killer deal.
360 rental.
PC retail. I like my boxes.
I returned Resistance 2 and got a gift card and I will use that gift card to fully pay for the 360 retail of Left 4 Dead the better first person shooter game of the season.
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']I returned Resistance 2 and got a gift card and I will use that gift card to fully pay for the 360 retail of Left 4 Dead the better first person shooter game of the season. [/QUOTE] Weren't you originally Sceptical of the game? If so :D
[QUOTE=''Locke562''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']I returned Resistance 2 and got a gift card and I will use that gift card to fully pay for the 360 retail of Left 4 Dead the better first person shooter game of the season. [/QUOTE] Weren't you originally Sceptical of the game? If so :D [/QUOTE] I think you got that confused of me saying I was skeptical about Huxley but I did however state that if Left 4 Dead gets an 8.5 here is that I am happy with that.
Not buying, hated the demo.. Mark my words, this will be the type of game where after a month when you go into gamestop you will see A LOT of used copies of it because people will realize it was way overhyped, not worth the full purchase price and not enough content.. Kind of like what happened with GTA IV, I Remember a month after it came out I went to gamestop and i saw almost 30 used GTA IV cases on the shelves, tons of people traded it in.
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Steam today, 360 later this year.
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''][QUOTE=''Locke562''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']I returned Resistance 2 and got a gift card and I will use that gift card to fully pay for the 360 retail of Left 4 Dead the better first person shooter game of the season. [/QUOTE] Weren't you originally Sceptical of the game? If so :D [/QUOTE] I think you got that confused of me saying I was skeptical about Huxley but I did however state that if Left 4 Dead gets an 8.5 here is that I am happy with that. [/QUOTE] Ah, I think I might have been confusing you with someone else then. Not sure who it is though... And yes, I agree. I'm totally skeptical of Huxley as well.
PC retail for me.Just got back from playing. We were so damn close in completing the end of No Mercy.
[QUOTE=''CODjon84'']Not buying, hated the demo.. Mark my words, this will be the type of game where after a month when you go into gamestop you will see A LOT of used copies of it because people will realize it was way overhyped, not worth the full purchase price and not enough content.. Kind of like what happened with GTA IV, I Remember a month after it came out I went to gamestop and i saw almost 30 used GTA IV cases on the shelves, tons of people traded it in. [/QUOTE]Maybe 360 copies but rest assured. Next year there will still be numerous people still playing it on the PC. Free Valve content and mods will also contribute to it's longetivity.
NFS Undercover 7.0
:lol:NFS Undercover 7.0
meh, better than i expected. After the ign reviews i was think 3.5. I think if anything people will b suprised with how high it scored :P
NFS Undercover 7.0
ps3 version got a 6.5
meh, better than i expected. After the ign reviews i was think 3.5. I think if anything people will b suprised with how high it scored :P
NFS Undercover 7.0
ps3 version got a 6.5
Can Sony Take 2009? - An Analysis
I am sure we all remember around this time last year when the whole world was saying that 2008 would be Sonys year and the Playstation 3 would take it by a landslide. however I think it is fair to say that this has not been the case. Many thought that Metal Gear Solid 4 alone would be enough for Sony to excel and take the number one spot, and surely enough they did beat Xbox 360 throughout the first half of the year on the NPD numbers. However Microsoft always proves the power of their business by exceeding over the competition. So lets ask ourselves, Will 2009 really be Sonys year?The Games With Killzone 2, God of war 3, and Yakuza 3 announced for 2009 speculation has already begun that Sony are taking the right steps for ensure the win. However it has now been proven that it is not always 1st party exclusive games that sell consoles, sometimes it is simply an already established franchise moving to another console that sways buyers. With Tekken 6 and Final Fantasy 13 being announced for 360 this may gain some new customers on the 360 side instead. The Strategy Rumor has it that Sony is planning a price drop in early 09 that should ensure the rate of Playstation 3 purchases increase, another needed strategy is to add the backward compatibility software to all Playstation 3's because this is a big factor new customers take into consideration when thinking of buying a new console. Seeing as most people previously had Playstation 2's they want to know they can play their PS2 library on the new system, but Sony is not giving people that kind of security currently and they do not seem to be opening up about their future plans with backward compatibility. Also if Sony wishes to be on top they need to step up with their marketing. Notice how Microsoft hardly ever talks about anything they have planned for the next year? all their success is based on how powerful their marketing is and until Sony realises this and gets on the ball then they will fall behind. It's like all Microsoft has to do is release a few commercials, gain marketing deals for certain games, and have their console being played on various shows and sitcoms to be the most popular format. The fact is that Microsoft are a tough beast to compete with and Sony underestimated them due to the fact they beat them last generation. Still Waiting Today NXE has been released for the Xbox 360 and still no Home, even with the rumors of Sony waiting for NXE to come out so they could drop Home on the same day. Delays are a big part of Sony's problem and they can not continue in 2009, they have to learn not to announce dates they cannot stick to. Home really does need to come out sometime soon also if they have any plans on taking a lead in 2009. In conclusion I think Sony releasing their line up is not enough to say they are taking 2009, Microsoft hardly every talk about their line up for the next year and it has always been this way. Sony need to rethink their strategy if they really are serious about beating the competition in 2009. They have a couple smash hit games announced for 09, plus games like Little Big Planet, Resistance 2 and Socom 3 might just keep people on their Playstations well into 09 with updated content. Lets just hope 2009 wont be another 2008 repeat where everyone seems so sure Sony will take the lead, only to be proved wrong. It is a bad look for Sony, and any more negative press is a danger to them.SourceI for one think Sony took 2008 so yeah it will be easy for them to take 2009 to. :D Can Sony Take 2009? - An Analysis
Nintendo will take it easily :( its a shame really.i have a funny feeling sony will take it Oh Well i remember thinking this at the beginnning of this year. Can Sony Take 2009? - An Analysis
Killzone 2 at the start, God of War 3 at the end with Team ICO's game somewhere in the middle. Sounds like the PS3 will win 2009 if we're talking about games not sales.
PS3 will probably take 2009 if God of war 3 will be released that year and if KZ 2 doesn't flop.
If PS3 out sells 360 worldwide in 2008, i'll be surprised.
is this a serious thread? edit: looks like it is. This is the same guy who said Killzone 2 wasmuch better than half life 2 :lol: another classic
[QUOTE=''WatchmenWatchUs'']If PS3 out sells 360 worldwide in 2008, i'll be surprised.[/QUOTE]it will, but not by much, and it also had a huge lead that is dwindling.
MS will continue to fight, remember hwo doomed it was thsi year?Oh yeah, and youre so right, Sony took 08, i mean they even caught up with the 360:roll:
[QUOTE=''PrimusGears''] [QUOTE=''WatchmenWatchUs'']If PS3 out sells 360 worldwide in 2008, i'll be surprised.[/QUOTE]it will, but not by much, and it also had a huge lead that is dwindling.[/QUOTE] You have no idea what your talking about do you?
[QUOTE=''MarloStanfield'']is this a serious thread? edit: looks like it is. This is the same guy who said Killzone 2 wasmuch better than half life 2 :lol: another classic[/QUOTE] Nope never said that. I just said I don't like Half Life 2 and Killzone 2 is looking to be an awesome game.
Halflife 2 was mediocre. The source engine at the time was amazeig and at the time the game was really fun but now when i go back to replay it i realize how mediocre it was compared to the hype. By no means should it still be compared to other games.
Unfortunately Wii will win again. Although the PS3 should beat the 360 by a mile!
I think God of War III alone is going to be a system mover. God of War is a proven series, with a very good chance that the third will be just as good if not better. On top of that with KZ2, and White Knight, and Team Ico's project hopefully sometime in 09. Tis going to be tremendous year for Sony. It seems they finally snagged that ball and are running full speed with it. :)
[QUOTE=''DavidooThe3rd''][QUOTE=''PrimusGears''] [QUOTE=''WatchmenWatchUs'']If PS3 out sells 360 worldwide in 2008, i'll be surprised.[/QUOTE]it will, but not by much, and it also had a huge lead that is dwindling.[/QUOTE] You have no idea what your talking about do you?[/QUOTE] I dont think you do my friend. Do the numbers. Sony has a 1.5 million lead that will probably fall to about 400,000 at the end of 2008. Get the facts or please dont offer a retort.
I am a huge GOW fan but honestly is there something I am missing here? I want GOD III just as bad as anybody but I am not sure what makes people so sure its coming out in 09. It has no release date and only a teaser to go off of. Its a day one purchase for me so I don't care and I want it as soon as possible but I am not so sure its releasing in 09.
[QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery''] MS will continue to fight, remember hwo doomed it was thsi year?Oh yeah, and youre so right, Sony took 08, i mean they even caught up with the 360:roll: [/QUOTE] Catching up to the 360s total worldwide sales and taking 08 are TWO different things. I love how the standards for ''Year of'' change because of the 360s flops. In 08 the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide for most of the year including NA, a place where MS was outselling the PS3 by 100K a month regularly last year. They cought up to the 360s total sales in Europe, improved PSN and MOST IMPORTANTLY had the most AAAA, AAA list. It currently has the only AAAA game. And somehow MS fanboys dont wanna admit it was the year of the PS3.Heck in 07 all the 360 had to do was have the most AAA games and it was the year of the 360. It didnt matter that the Wii caught up to its total sales, or the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The standards were simple, ''we don't play sales'' and the best library wins. The PS3 was made fun of because it depended on AAE , (like the 360 had to for MOST of 08).Double standards
[QUOTE=''Javy03''][QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery''] MS will continue to fight, remember hwo doomed it was thsi year?Oh yeah, and youre so right, Sony took 08, i mean they even caught up with the 360:roll: [/QUOTE] Catching up to the 360s total worldwide sales and taking 08 are TWO different things. I love how the standards for ''Year of'' change because of the 360s flops. In 08 the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide for most of the year including NA, a place where MS was outselling the PS3 by 100K a month regularly last year. They cought up to the 360s total sales in Europe, improved PSN and MOST IMPORTANTLY had the most AAAA, AAA list. It currently has the only AAAA game. And somehow MS fanboys dont wanna admit it was the year of the PS3.Heck in 07 all the 360 had to do was have the most AAA games and it was the year of the 360. It didnt matter that the Wii caught up to its total sales, or the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The standards were simple, ''we don't play sales'' and the best library wins. The PS3 was made fun of because it depended on AAE , (like the 360 had to for MOST of 08).Double standards[/QUOTE]MS is set to win NA, its already beaten the PS3s lead, as it had two months of shortage and offcourse the MGS4 releaseAs for games, the 360 has done just fine, with Banjo, Lips and Naruto to go, all AA cadidates
[QUOTE=''Javy03''][QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery''] MS will continue to fight, remember hwo doomed it was thsi year?Oh yeah, and youre so right, Sony took 08, i mean they even caught up with the 360:roll: [/QUOTE] Catching up to the 360s total worldwide sales and taking 08 are TWO different things. I love how the standards for ''Year of'' change because of the 360s flops. In 08 the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide for most of the year including NA, a place where MS was outselling the PS3 by 100K a month regularly last year. They cought up to the 360s total sales in Europe, improved PSN and MOST IMPORTANTLY had the most AAAA, AAA list. It currently has the only AAAA game. And somehow MS fanboys dont wanna admit it was the year of the PS3.Heck in 07 all the 360 had to do was have the most AAA games and it was the year of the 360. It didnt matter that the Wii caught up to its total sales, or the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The standards were simple, ''we don't play sales'' and the best library wins. The PS3 was made fun of because it depended on AAE , (like the 360 had to for MOST of 08).Double standards[/QUOTE] Very good post, It's something I've noticed too.
I'm sure Sony will march to victory in 09 the same way they did in 07 %26 08. On a price cut in early 09, why the hell would you do that if you were able, instead of doing it a month or two earlier during the holidays when most consoles are sold? Doesn't make sense and I wouldn't hold your breath for a price cut in the first couple of months of 09.
[QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery'']MS is set to win NA, its already beaten the PS3s lead, as it had two months of shortage and offcourse the MGS4 release As for games, the 360 has done just fine, with Banjo, Lips and Naruto to go, all AA cadidates [/QUOTE] Winning NA means nothing, worldwide is what matters and even with MS back on top in NA right after its price cut, the sales PS3 aquired in NA during most of the year helped build its lead to most likely beat it worldwide again this year. As for game line up I am no fanboy and am not here to judge games. I know the 360 has had good games this year, my point is that according to SW standards set by MS fanboys, the year of award was given to the console with the most AAAA, AAA games. The PS3 had plenty of AAE in 07 as well but that didnt matter then did it.
Nintendo will take it easily :( its a shame really.i have a funny feeling sony will take it Oh Well i remember thinking this at the beginnning of this year. Can Sony Take 2009? - An Analysis
Killzone 2 at the start, God of War 3 at the end with Team ICO's game somewhere in the middle. Sounds like the PS3 will win 2009 if we're talking about games not sales.
PS3 will probably take 2009 if God of war 3 will be released that year and if KZ 2 doesn't flop.
If PS3 out sells 360 worldwide in 2008, i'll be surprised.
is this a serious thread? edit: looks like it is. This is the same guy who said Killzone 2 wasmuch better than half life 2 :lol: another classic
[QUOTE=''WatchmenWatchUs'']If PS3 out sells 360 worldwide in 2008, i'll be surprised.[/QUOTE]it will, but not by much, and it also had a huge lead that is dwindling.
MS will continue to fight, remember hwo doomed it was thsi year?Oh yeah, and youre so right, Sony took 08, i mean they even caught up with the 360:roll:
[QUOTE=''PrimusGears''] [QUOTE=''WatchmenWatchUs'']If PS3 out sells 360 worldwide in 2008, i'll be surprised.[/QUOTE]it will, but not by much, and it also had a huge lead that is dwindling.[/QUOTE] You have no idea what your talking about do you?
[QUOTE=''MarloStanfield'']is this a serious thread? edit: looks like it is. This is the same guy who said Killzone 2 wasmuch better than half life 2 :lol: another classic[/QUOTE] Nope never said that. I just said I don't like Half Life 2 and Killzone 2 is looking to be an awesome game.
Halflife 2 was mediocre. The source engine at the time was amazeig and at the time the game was really fun but now when i go back to replay it i realize how mediocre it was compared to the hype. By no means should it still be compared to other games.
Unfortunately Wii will win again. Although the PS3 should beat the 360 by a mile!
I think God of War III alone is going to be a system mover. God of War is a proven series, with a very good chance that the third will be just as good if not better. On top of that with KZ2, and White Knight, and Team Ico's project hopefully sometime in 09. Tis going to be tremendous year for Sony. It seems they finally snagged that ball and are running full speed with it. :)
[QUOTE=''DavidooThe3rd''][QUOTE=''PrimusGears''] [QUOTE=''WatchmenWatchUs'']If PS3 out sells 360 worldwide in 2008, i'll be surprised.[/QUOTE]it will, but not by much, and it also had a huge lead that is dwindling.[/QUOTE] You have no idea what your talking about do you?[/QUOTE] I dont think you do my friend. Do the numbers. Sony has a 1.5 million lead that will probably fall to about 400,000 at the end of 2008. Get the facts or please dont offer a retort.
I am a huge GOW fan but honestly is there something I am missing here? I want GOD III just as bad as anybody but I am not sure what makes people so sure its coming out in 09. It has no release date and only a teaser to go off of. Its a day one purchase for me so I don't care and I want it as soon as possible but I am not so sure its releasing in 09.
[QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery''] MS will continue to fight, remember hwo doomed it was thsi year?Oh yeah, and youre so right, Sony took 08, i mean they even caught up with the 360:roll: [/QUOTE] Catching up to the 360s total worldwide sales and taking 08 are TWO different things. I love how the standards for ''Year of'' change because of the 360s flops. In 08 the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide for most of the year including NA, a place where MS was outselling the PS3 by 100K a month regularly last year. They cought up to the 360s total sales in Europe, improved PSN and MOST IMPORTANTLY had the most AAAA, AAA list. It currently has the only AAAA game. And somehow MS fanboys dont wanna admit it was the year of the PS3.Heck in 07 all the 360 had to do was have the most AAA games and it was the year of the 360. It didnt matter that the Wii caught up to its total sales, or the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The standards were simple, ''we don't play sales'' and the best library wins. The PS3 was made fun of because it depended on AAE , (like the 360 had to for MOST of 08).Double standards
[QUOTE=''Javy03''][QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery''] MS will continue to fight, remember hwo doomed it was thsi year?Oh yeah, and youre so right, Sony took 08, i mean they even caught up with the 360:roll: [/QUOTE] Catching up to the 360s total worldwide sales and taking 08 are TWO different things. I love how the standards for ''Year of'' change because of the 360s flops. In 08 the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide for most of the year including NA, a place where MS was outselling the PS3 by 100K a month regularly last year. They cought up to the 360s total sales in Europe, improved PSN and MOST IMPORTANTLY had the most AAAA, AAA list. It currently has the only AAAA game. And somehow MS fanboys dont wanna admit it was the year of the PS3.Heck in 07 all the 360 had to do was have the most AAA games and it was the year of the 360. It didnt matter that the Wii caught up to its total sales, or the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The standards were simple, ''we don't play sales'' and the best library wins. The PS3 was made fun of because it depended on AAE , (like the 360 had to for MOST of 08).Double standards[/QUOTE]MS is set to win NA, its already beaten the PS3s lead, as it had two months of shortage and offcourse the MGS4 releaseAs for games, the 360 has done just fine, with Banjo, Lips and Naruto to go, all AA cadidates
[QUOTE=''Javy03''][QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery''] MS will continue to fight, remember hwo doomed it was thsi year?Oh yeah, and youre so right, Sony took 08, i mean they even caught up with the 360:roll: [/QUOTE] Catching up to the 360s total worldwide sales and taking 08 are TWO different things. I love how the standards for ''Year of'' change because of the 360s flops. In 08 the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide for most of the year including NA, a place where MS was outselling the PS3 by 100K a month regularly last year. They cought up to the 360s total sales in Europe, improved PSN and MOST IMPORTANTLY had the most AAAA, AAA list. It currently has the only AAAA game. And somehow MS fanboys dont wanna admit it was the year of the PS3.Heck in 07 all the 360 had to do was have the most AAA games and it was the year of the 360. It didnt matter that the Wii caught up to its total sales, or the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The standards were simple, ''we don't play sales'' and the best library wins. The PS3 was made fun of because it depended on AAE , (like the 360 had to for MOST of 08).Double standards[/QUOTE] Very good post, It's something I've noticed too.
I'm sure Sony will march to victory in 09 the same way they did in 07 %26 08. On a price cut in early 09, why the hell would you do that if you were able, instead of doing it a month or two earlier during the holidays when most consoles are sold? Doesn't make sense and I wouldn't hold your breath for a price cut in the first couple of months of 09.
[QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery'']MS is set to win NA, its already beaten the PS3s lead, as it had two months of shortage and offcourse the MGS4 release As for games, the 360 has done just fine, with Banjo, Lips and Naruto to go, all AA cadidates [/QUOTE] Winning NA means nothing, worldwide is what matters and even with MS back on top in NA right after its price cut, the sales PS3 aquired in NA during most of the year helped build its lead to most likely beat it worldwide again this year. As for game line up I am no fanboy and am not here to judge games. I know the 360 has had good games this year, my point is that according to SW standards set by MS fanboys, the year of award was given to the console with the most AAAA, AAA games. The PS3 had plenty of AAE in 07 as well but that didnt matter then did it.
Androgynous Males or Tough Bald Guy [56K ...
What do you prefer to play as?Our current state of character design.
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Not quite effiminate. But not quite a tough guy. Still a pretty boy.
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Androgynous Males or Tough Bald Guy [56K ...
The bald space marine thing is a myth, really. Other than Resistance i cant think of any bald tough-guy characters. :?Androgynous Males or Tough Bald Guy [56K ...
[QUOTE=''Ninja-Hippo'']The bald space marine thing is a myth, really. Other than Resistance i cant think of any bald tough-guy characters. :?[/QUOTE]![]()
Kratos
I prefer the metro sexual male they are bad ass and they are nice to look at. ;)
[QUOTE=''Jacboy71'']I prefer the metro sexual male they are bad ass and they are nice to look at. ;)[/QUOTE]I can't believe I'm agreeing with you. :( But I don't want them to look too feminine (Im talking to you FF: Crisis Core). I didn't mind Tidus at all - I thought he was cool. Vaan was a lil weird, but it's ok.
[QUOTE=''Mr_Cumberdale''][QUOTE=''Jacboy71'']I prefer the metro sexual male they are bad ass and they are nice to look at. ;)[/QUOTE]I can't believe I'm agreeing with you. :( But I don't want them to look too feminine (Im talking to you FF: Crisis Core). I didn't mind Tidus at all - I thought he was cool. Vaan was a lil weird, but it's ok.[/QUOTE]To me vaan was awesome but the best metrosexual hero so far to me is yuri from tales of vesperia now he is bad ass.
Howsabout... neither:
|[QUOTE=''Jacboy71'']I prefer the metro sexual male they have nice ass and they are nice to look at. ;)[/QUOTE] Yeah, I hears ya. I think I like the bald guys, I guess I'm just scared.
Um... I cant decide, the Bald Tough Guys fit my attitude. But in all actuallity I'm a skinnt jeans wear, hot topic shopping, Strokes loving kinda guys. So im gonna go ahead and go with my metros!
[quote=''LOL''][img]http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9871/vaanpsdjpgcopyscreenshocj6.jpg[/img][/quote]
:lol:
Really?
vaan>>>>>>>everybody
Tidus and Squall don't really look androgynous imo.
[QUOTE=''SolidTy''] [QUOTE=''Jacboy71'']I prefer the metro sexual male they have nice ass and they are nice to look at. ;)[/QUOTE] Yeah, I hears ya. I think I like the bald guys, I guess I'm just scared.[/QUOTE] This thread is going places , lol.
[QUOTE=''SolidTy''][QUOTE=''Jacboy71'']I prefer the metro sexual male they have nice ass and they are nice to look at. ;)[/QUOTE] Yeah, I hears ya. I think I like the bald guys, I guess I'm just scared.[/QUOTE]Hey I see what you did there. 0___o
Tough Bald Guy FTW!!.. I would be able to see the enemies off there shiny bald heads!
I like women thank you very much :|
lol all the ''tough'' guys look exactly the same! you forgot sam fisher:
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[QUOTE=''Ninja-Hippo'']The bald space marine thing is a myth, really. Other than Resistance i cant think of any bald tough-guy characters. :?[/QUOTE]![]()
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I would put Squall as in between. But most people still categorise as androgynous, so I put him there.
Is it too much to ask for the middle ground? :P
[QUOTE=''black_tempest'']Tidus and Squall don't really look androgynous imo.[/QUOTE] any guy that can pull off an elaborate hairstyle should be considered androgynous
Androgynous Males
Androgynous Males or Tough Bald Guy [56K ...
The bald space marine thing is a myth, really. Other than Resistance i cant think of any bald tough-guy characters. :?Androgynous Males or Tough Bald Guy [56K ...
[QUOTE=''Ninja-Hippo'']The bald space marine thing is a myth, really. Other than Resistance i cant think of any bald tough-guy characters. :?[/QUOTE]
I prefer the metro sexual male they are bad ass and they are nice to look at. ;)
[QUOTE=''Jacboy71'']I prefer the metro sexual male they are bad ass and they are nice to look at. ;)[/QUOTE]I can't believe I'm agreeing with you. :( But I don't want them to look too feminine (Im talking to you FF: Crisis Core). I didn't mind Tidus at all - I thought he was cool. Vaan was a lil weird, but it's ok.
[QUOTE=''Mr_Cumberdale''][QUOTE=''Jacboy71'']I prefer the metro sexual male they are bad ass and they are nice to look at. ;)[/QUOTE]I can't believe I'm agreeing with you. :( But I don't want them to look too feminine (Im talking to you FF: Crisis Core). I didn't mind Tidus at all - I thought he was cool. Vaan was a lil weird, but it's ok.[/QUOTE]To me vaan was awesome but the best metrosexual hero so far to me is yuri from tales of vesperia now he is bad ass.
Howsabout... neither:
|[QUOTE=''Jacboy71'']I prefer the metro sexual male they have nice ass and they are nice to look at. ;)[/QUOTE] Yeah, I hears ya. I think I like the bald guys, I guess I'm just scared.
Um... I cant decide, the Bald Tough Guys fit my attitude. But in all actuallity I'm a skinnt jeans wear, hot topic shopping, Strokes loving kinda guys. So im gonna go ahead and go with my metros!
[quote=''LOL''][img]http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9871/vaanpsdjpgcopyscreenshocj6.jpg[/img][/quote]
:lol:
Really?
vaan>>>>>>>everybody
Tidus and Squall don't really look androgynous imo.
[QUOTE=''SolidTy''] [QUOTE=''Jacboy71'']I prefer the metro sexual male they have nice ass and they are nice to look at. ;)[/QUOTE] Yeah, I hears ya. I think I like the bald guys, I guess I'm just scared.[/QUOTE] This thread is going places , lol.
[QUOTE=''SolidTy''][QUOTE=''Jacboy71'']I prefer the metro sexual male they have nice ass and they are nice to look at. ;)[/QUOTE] Yeah, I hears ya. I think I like the bald guys, I guess I'm just scared.[/QUOTE]Hey I see what you did there. 0___o
Tough Bald Guy FTW!!.. I would be able to see the enemies off there shiny bald heads!
I like women thank you very much :|
lol all the ''tough'' guys look exactly the same! you forgot sam fisher:
[QUOTE=''Ninja-Hippo'']The bald space marine thing is a myth, really. Other than Resistance i cant think of any bald tough-guy characters. :?[/QUOTE]
Is it too much to ask for the middle ground? :P
[QUOTE=''black_tempest'']Tidus and Squall don't really look androgynous imo.[/QUOTE] any guy that can pull off an elaborate hairstyle should be considered androgynous
Question about Wii codes.
What the hell is up with them? I've noticed a lot of people in their sigs have them and it looks pretty weird. My question is, instead of names like in XBL and PSN you just have a series of numbers?
Why do you go through teammates in L4D?
Just why? I played the PC demo and I always wondered? WHY? Can't they be physical, existing people where they take up space? WHY?Why do you go through teammates in L4D?
Because then one player could stand in a narrow hallway and block his teammates from advancing, griefing without incurring any of the negative reputation that comes from other events such as friendly fire. That wouldn't be any fun, now, would it? I like the current system, where players take up a little space, but you can still advance past them. Why do you go through teammates in L4D?
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Why do they say ''you're filling out a form'' when you're really filling in a form? Why does 7/11 have locks if it's open 24/7? Why do they call them ''apartments'' if they're stuck together? Why are they called ''buildings'' if they are already built? Why do you park in a driveway, and drive in a parkway? Why do they tell you to ''dust the house'' when what you're trying to do is get rid of the dust? Etcetera...But yeah, I like it better this way.
really the people in the game with u aren't physical thats weird
Its an arcade shooter... I don't see how going through teammates has an effect on what little ''realism'' it has in the first place.
[QUOTE=''Albanian_Killa'']Just why? I played the PC demo and I always wondered? WHY? Can't they be physical, existing people where they take up space? WHY?[/QUOTE] it would break the game
considering how fast paced the action is, it would be really annoying to always be running into teammates.
Because then one player could stand in a narrow hallway and block his teammates from advancing, griefing without incurring any of the negative reputation that comes from other events such as friendly fire. That wouldn't be any fun, now, would it? I like the current system, where players take up a little space, but you can still advance past them. Why do you go through teammates in L4D?
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Why do they say ''you're filling out a form'' when you're really filling in a form? Why does 7/11 have locks if it's open 24/7? Why do they call them ''apartments'' if they're stuck together? Why are they called ''buildings'' if they are already built? Why do you park in a driveway, and drive in a parkway? Why do they tell you to ''dust the house'' when what you're trying to do is get rid of the dust? Etcetera...But yeah, I like it better this way.
really the people in the game with u aren't physical thats weird
Its an arcade shooter... I don't see how going through teammates has an effect on what little ''realism'' it has in the first place.
[QUOTE=''Albanian_Killa'']Just why? I played the PC demo and I always wondered? WHY? Can't they be physical, existing people where they take up space? WHY?[/QUOTE] it would break the game
considering how fast paced the action is, it would be really annoying to always be running into teammates.
Everyone who thought R2 was to easy & ...
R1....... was more challenging than R2. My advice is %26 you'll also notice this, playing R2 on hard would be like playing R1 on Normal. Play it on hard then Superhuman it's much better. Also did anyone notice how much depth the game had? Shooting the water is awesome. How can anyone say graphically this game sucks? I'd have to say you're insane %26 it's all %26 more what a sequel should be. I played a little Gears of War 2 @ my cousin's on the weekend %26 it's great but I must say Resistance 2 %26 Gears 2 are tied when it comes to being a superb video game. I believe only true fanboys will deny Resistance 2's awesomeness %26 scale %26 vice versa. The reason I bring this up is because I see alot of 360 only owners saying they traded in Resistance to get L4D or Gears 2 blah blah, I think that's a pure lie %26 it's hard to believe anyone who enjoys a good or great FPS like Doom, Halo, Half Life, CS will deny this.Everyone who thought R2 was to easy %26amp ...
I think R2 is a good game, but not as good as Gears 2. Also, I think it looks nice, graphically, except for that one mountain-ish area.Everyone who thought R2 was to easy %26amp ...
[QUOTE=''BioShockOwnz'']I think R2 is a good game, but not as good as Gears 2. Also, I think it looks nice, graphically, except for that one mountain-ish area.[/QUOTE]same here
R2 is more difficult than R1. Like its a no brainer. R2 normal = R1 hard R2 online is ages ahead of R1 and Gears 2.
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[QUOTE=''mgsbethatgame''][QUOTE=''BioShockOwnz'']I think R2 is a good game, but not as good as Gears 2. Also, I think it looks nice, graphically, except for that one mountain-ish area.[/QUOTE]same here [/QUOTE] agreed... but killzone 2 is better than both. and so is metal gear solid 4, and grand theft auto 4.
[QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''][QUOTE=''mgsbethatgame''][QUOTE=''BioShockOwnz'']I think R2 is a good game, but not as good as Gears 2. Also, I think it looks nice, graphically, except for that one mountain-ish area.[/QUOTE]same here [/QUOTE] agreed... but killzone 2 is better than both. and so is metal gear solid 4, and grand theft auto 4. [/QUOTE]you sir are a smart
R2 is pretty dam hard.
You could also argue that Resistance 2 changed multiple things for the better, while Gears 2 is similiar to an expansion pack of the first game. Don't get me wrong, I love gears of war, but it felt somewhat recycled.
[QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''][QUOTE=''mgsbethatgame''][QUOTE=''BioShockOwnz'']I think R2 is a good game, but not as good as Gears 2. Also, I think it looks nice, graphically, except for that one mountain-ish area.[/QUOTE]same here [/QUOTE] agreed... but killzone 2 is better than both. and so is metal gear solid 4, and grand theft auto 4. [/QUOTE]Don't know how MGS4 came into this. GTAIV is steamy dung. I haven't played it since 2 weeks after it came out. Horrible game.
[QUOTE=''John_McFail'']R2 is more difficult than R1. Like its a no brainer. R2 normal = R1 hard R2 online is ages ahead of R1 and Gears 2. [/QUOTE]Not even. Resistance 2 on my first playthrough on normal was too easy. What are you talking about :
|[QUOTE=''SonyMarksman70''][QUOTE=''John_McFail'']R2 is more difficult than R1. Like its a no brainer. R2 normal = R1 hard R2 online is ages ahead of R1 and Gears 2. [/QUOTE]Not even. Resistance 2 on my first playthrough on normal was too easy. What are you talking about :|[/QUOTE]No. No. No. What are YOU talking about? :|R2 has smarter enemies, more of them, huge battles, limited to 2 weapons, fewer bullets. What game did you play?
[QUOTE=''John_McFail''][QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''][QUOTE=''mgsbethatgame''] same here [/QUOTE] agreed... but killzone 2 is better than both. and so is metal gear solid 4, and grand theft auto 4. [/QUOTE]Don't know how MGS4 came into this. GTAIV is steamy dung. I haven't played it since 2 weeks after it came out. Horrible game. [/QUOTE] :| GTAIV is an amazing game.. no other sandbox game even comes close. It has great mechanics and a great story, the music is amazing. Graphics are great... the online is fun for a bit. so you need to actually play the game and then come and talk. MGS4 is always in this ... 4 million AAA...
[QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''][QUOTE=''John_McFail''][QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''] agreed... but killzone 2 is better than both. and so is metal gear solid 4, and grand theft auto 4. [/QUOTE]Don't know how MGS4 came into this. GTAIV is steamy dung. I haven't played it since 2 weeks after it came out. Horrible game. [/QUOTE] :| GTAIV is an amazing game.. no other sandbox game even comes close. It has great mechanics and a great story, the music is amazing. Graphics are great... the online is fun for a bit. so you need to actually play the game and then come and talk. MGS4 is always in this ... 4 million AAA... [/QUOTE]Don't be silly. I'm looking at the damn box in my hand right now. The game is waayyy to repetitive and the online is a good addition but terribly executed. MGS4 is AAAA 4 million and epic....but has nothing to do with this thread.
[QUOTE=''John_McFail''][QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''][QUOTE=''John_McFail'']Don't know how MGS4 came into this. GTAIV is steamy dung. I haven't played it since 2 weeks after it came out. Horrible game. [/QUOTE] :| GTAIV is an amazing game.. no other sandbox game even comes close. It has great mechanics and a great story, the music is amazing. Graphics are great... the online is fun for a bit. so you need to actually play the game and then come and talk. MGS4 is always in this ... 4 million AAA... [/QUOTE]Don't be silly. I'm looking at the damn box in my hand right now. The game is waayyy to repetitive and the online is a good addition but terribly executed. MGS4 is AAAA 4 million and epic....but has nothing to do with this thread. [/QUOTE] :| lol.. repetitive is Assasins Creed.. not GTAIV. lol... terribly executed eh. like to see any other sandbox game come close.
[QUOTE=''John_McFail''][QUOTE=''SonyMarksman70''][QUOTE=''John_McFail'']R2 is more difficult than R1. Like its a no brainer. R2 normal = R1 hard R2 online is ages ahead of R1 and Gears 2. [/QUOTE]Not even. Resistance 2 on my first playthrough on normal was too easy. What are you talking about :|[/QUOTE]No. No. No. What are YOU talking about? :|R2 has smarter enemies, more of them, huge battles, limited to 2 weapons, fewer bullets. What game did you play? [/QUOTE]I disagree, playing the game on your own was much more fun %26 challenging. Having the US army on your back for nearly the entire campaign is a small drag. The parts where you're on your own.... Just you %26 the Chimera was the best of all in the campaign. E.g fighting Dadelus etc.
[QUOTE=''SonyMarksman70''][QUOTE=''John_McFail''][QUOTE=''SonyMarksman70'']Not even. Resistance 2 on my first playthrough on normal was too easy. What are you talking about :|[/QUOTE]No. No. No. What are YOU talking about? :| R2 has smarter enemies, more of them, huge battles, limited to 2 weapons, fewer bullets. What game did you play? [/QUOTE]I disagree, playing the game on your own was much more fun %26 challenging. Having the US army on your back for nearly the entire campaign is a small drag. The parts where you're on your own.... Just you %26 the Chimera was the best of all in the campaign. E.g fighting Dadelus etc.[/QUOTE]I never REALLY notice the U.S army. All the enemies attack you individually regardless of who is around anyway.
[QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''][QUOTE=''John_McFail''][QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''] agreed... but killzone 2 is better than both. and so is metal gear solid 4, and grand theft auto 4. [/QUOTE]Don't know how MGS4 came into this. GTAIV is steamy dung. I haven't played it since 2 weeks after it came out. Horrible game. [/QUOTE] :| GTAIV is an amazing game.. no other sandbox game even comes close. It has great mechanics and a great story, the music is amazing. Graphics are great... the online is fun for a bit. so you need to actually play the game and then come and talk. MGS4 is always in this ... 4 million AAA... [/QUOTE]Agreed. Man, the hate for GTA IV is so cliche anymore.
[QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''][QUOTE=''John_McFail''][QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''] :| GTAIV is an amazing game.. no other sandbox game even comes close. It has great mechanics and a great story, the music is amazing. Graphics are great... the online is fun for a bit. so you need to actually play the game and then come and talk. MGS4 is always in this ... 4 million AAA... [/QUOTE]Don't be silly. I'm looking at the damn box in my hand right now. The game is waayyy to repetitive and the online is a good addition but terribly executed. MGS4 is AAAA 4 million and epic....but has nothing to do with this thread. [/QUOTE] :| lol.. repetitive is Assasins Creed.. not GTAIV. lol... terribly executed eh. like to see any other sandbox game come close. [/QUOTE]IMO its very repetitive. How in the world do you make a ''turf war'' game and the enemies bases are far but there's little to no cars on the street :|The game is a drag.
I dont own the game but Ive played both games on my friend's PS3 alot, and I g2 say that I miss the weapon wheel alot in R2. From a purely out for thrill perspective, having the diverse choice of weapons in R1 was golden. Why on earth did they succumb to the blend trend of the 2 weapon system is beyond me.bloom-
I think R2 is a good game, but not as good as Gears 2. Also, I think it looks nice, graphically, except for that one mountain-ish area.Everyone who thought R2 was to easy %26amp ...
[QUOTE=''BioShockOwnz'']I think R2 is a good game, but not as good as Gears 2. Also, I think it looks nice, graphically, except for that one mountain-ish area.[/QUOTE]same here
R2 is more difficult than R1. Like its a no brainer. R2 normal = R1 hard R2 online is ages ahead of R1 and Gears 2.
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[QUOTE=''mgsbethatgame''][QUOTE=''BioShockOwnz'']I think R2 is a good game, but not as good as Gears 2. Also, I think it looks nice, graphically, except for that one mountain-ish area.[/QUOTE]same here [/QUOTE] agreed... but killzone 2 is better than both. and so is metal gear solid 4, and grand theft auto 4.
[QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''][QUOTE=''mgsbethatgame''][QUOTE=''BioShockOwnz'']I think R2 is a good game, but not as good as Gears 2. Also, I think it looks nice, graphically, except for that one mountain-ish area.[/QUOTE]same here [/QUOTE] agreed... but killzone 2 is better than both. and so is metal gear solid 4, and grand theft auto 4. [/QUOTE]you sir are a smart
R2 is pretty dam hard.
You could also argue that Resistance 2 changed multiple things for the better, while Gears 2 is similiar to an expansion pack of the first game. Don't get me wrong, I love gears of war, but it felt somewhat recycled.
[QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''][QUOTE=''mgsbethatgame''][QUOTE=''BioShockOwnz'']I think R2 is a good game, but not as good as Gears 2. Also, I think it looks nice, graphically, except for that one mountain-ish area.[/QUOTE]same here [/QUOTE] agreed... but killzone 2 is better than both. and so is metal gear solid 4, and grand theft auto 4. [/QUOTE]Don't know how MGS4 came into this. GTAIV is steamy dung. I haven't played it since 2 weeks after it came out. Horrible game.
[QUOTE=''John_McFail'']R2 is more difficult than R1. Like its a no brainer. R2 normal = R1 hard R2 online is ages ahead of R1 and Gears 2. [/QUOTE]Not even. Resistance 2 on my first playthrough on normal was too easy. What are you talking about :
|[QUOTE=''SonyMarksman70''][QUOTE=''John_McFail'']R2 is more difficult than R1. Like its a no brainer. R2 normal = R1 hard R2 online is ages ahead of R1 and Gears 2. [/QUOTE]Not even. Resistance 2 on my first playthrough on normal was too easy. What are you talking about :|[/QUOTE]No. No. No. What are YOU talking about? :|R2 has smarter enemies, more of them, huge battles, limited to 2 weapons, fewer bullets. What game did you play?
[QUOTE=''John_McFail''][QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''][QUOTE=''mgsbethatgame''] same here [/QUOTE] agreed... but killzone 2 is better than both. and so is metal gear solid 4, and grand theft auto 4. [/QUOTE]Don't know how MGS4 came into this. GTAIV is steamy dung. I haven't played it since 2 weeks after it came out. Horrible game. [/QUOTE] :| GTAIV is an amazing game.. no other sandbox game even comes close. It has great mechanics and a great story, the music is amazing. Graphics are great... the online is fun for a bit. so you need to actually play the game and then come and talk. MGS4 is always in this ... 4 million AAA...
[QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''][QUOTE=''John_McFail''][QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''] agreed... but killzone 2 is better than both. and so is metal gear solid 4, and grand theft auto 4. [/QUOTE]Don't know how MGS4 came into this. GTAIV is steamy dung. I haven't played it since 2 weeks after it came out. Horrible game. [/QUOTE] :| GTAIV is an amazing game.. no other sandbox game even comes close. It has great mechanics and a great story, the music is amazing. Graphics are great... the online is fun for a bit. so you need to actually play the game and then come and talk. MGS4 is always in this ... 4 million AAA... [/QUOTE]Don't be silly. I'm looking at the damn box in my hand right now. The game is waayyy to repetitive and the online is a good addition but terribly executed. MGS4 is AAAA 4 million and epic....but has nothing to do with this thread.
[QUOTE=''John_McFail''][QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''][QUOTE=''John_McFail'']Don't know how MGS4 came into this. GTAIV is steamy dung. I haven't played it since 2 weeks after it came out. Horrible game. [/QUOTE] :| GTAIV is an amazing game.. no other sandbox game even comes close. It has great mechanics and a great story, the music is amazing. Graphics are great... the online is fun for a bit. so you need to actually play the game and then come and talk. MGS4 is always in this ... 4 million AAA... [/QUOTE]Don't be silly. I'm looking at the damn box in my hand right now. The game is waayyy to repetitive and the online is a good addition but terribly executed. MGS4 is AAAA 4 million and epic....but has nothing to do with this thread. [/QUOTE] :| lol.. repetitive is Assasins Creed.. not GTAIV. lol... terribly executed eh. like to see any other sandbox game come close.
[QUOTE=''John_McFail''][QUOTE=''SonyMarksman70''][QUOTE=''John_McFail'']R2 is more difficult than R1. Like its a no brainer. R2 normal = R1 hard R2 online is ages ahead of R1 and Gears 2. [/QUOTE]Not even. Resistance 2 on my first playthrough on normal was too easy. What are you talking about :|[/QUOTE]No. No. No. What are YOU talking about? :|R2 has smarter enemies, more of them, huge battles, limited to 2 weapons, fewer bullets. What game did you play? [/QUOTE]I disagree, playing the game on your own was much more fun %26 challenging. Having the US army on your back for nearly the entire campaign is a small drag. The parts where you're on your own.... Just you %26 the Chimera was the best of all in the campaign. E.g fighting Dadelus etc.
[QUOTE=''SonyMarksman70''][QUOTE=''John_McFail''][QUOTE=''SonyMarksman70'']Not even. Resistance 2 on my first playthrough on normal was too easy. What are you talking about :|[/QUOTE]No. No. No. What are YOU talking about? :| R2 has smarter enemies, more of them, huge battles, limited to 2 weapons, fewer bullets. What game did you play? [/QUOTE]I disagree, playing the game on your own was much more fun %26 challenging. Having the US army on your back for nearly the entire campaign is a small drag. The parts where you're on your own.... Just you %26 the Chimera was the best of all in the campaign. E.g fighting Dadelus etc.[/QUOTE]I never REALLY notice the U.S army. All the enemies attack you individually regardless of who is around anyway.
[QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''][QUOTE=''John_McFail''][QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''] agreed... but killzone 2 is better than both. and so is metal gear solid 4, and grand theft auto 4. [/QUOTE]Don't know how MGS4 came into this. GTAIV is steamy dung. I haven't played it since 2 weeks after it came out. Horrible game. [/QUOTE] :| GTAIV is an amazing game.. no other sandbox game even comes close. It has great mechanics and a great story, the music is amazing. Graphics are great... the online is fun for a bit. so you need to actually play the game and then come and talk. MGS4 is always in this ... 4 million AAA... [/QUOTE]Agreed. Man, the hate for GTA IV is so cliche anymore.
[QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''][QUOTE=''John_McFail''][QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud''] :| GTAIV is an amazing game.. no other sandbox game even comes close. It has great mechanics and a great story, the music is amazing. Graphics are great... the online is fun for a bit. so you need to actually play the game and then come and talk. MGS4 is always in this ... 4 million AAA... [/QUOTE]Don't be silly. I'm looking at the damn box in my hand right now. The game is waayyy to repetitive and the online is a good addition but terribly executed. MGS4 is AAAA 4 million and epic....but has nothing to do with this thread. [/QUOTE] :| lol.. repetitive is Assasins Creed.. not GTAIV. lol... terribly executed eh. like to see any other sandbox game come close. [/QUOTE]IMO its very repetitive. How in the world do you make a ''turf war'' game and the enemies bases are far but there's little to no cars on the street :|The game is a drag.
I dont own the game but Ive played both games on my friend's PS3 alot, and I g2 say that I miss the weapon wheel alot in R2. From a purely out for thrill perspective, having the diverse choice of weapons in R1 was golden. Why on earth did they succumb to the blend trend of the 2 weapon system is beyond me.
IGN Tomb Raider Review: 7.5
http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/142/14224305.html I heard about this in a LittleBigPlanet user-created level funnily enough.IGN Tomb Raider Review: 7.5
Not bad score...One of these days I will play a Tomb Raider game....I keep thinking about it, just have never picked one up.IGN Tomb Raider Review: 7.5
Little Big Planet rocks!!!!!!
Did anyone seriously give a **** about this game?
I'll LMAO if it outscores Stalker clear sky :lol:
Looked interesting, I'll try it later on the PC.
No review of the PC Version. It should fix some of those technical problems..
Not bad score...One of these days I will play a Tomb Raider game....I keep thinking about it, just have never picked one up.IGN Tomb Raider Review: 7.5
Little Big Planet rocks!!!!!!
Did anyone seriously give a **** about this game?
I'll LMAO if it outscores Stalker clear sky :lol:
Looked interesting, I'll try it later on the PC.
No review of the PC Version. It should fix some of those technical problems..
New Tomb Raider....does anyone care?
I notice that this game is getting no talk about it what so ever. Personally, I am not interested in this game in the slightest. However, I know there used to be some hardcore TR fans. Are you still out there? Anybody actually picking this game up? I think it comes out today as well.New Tomb Raider....does anyone care?
I care.New Tomb Raider....does anyone care?
I've never been a Tomb Raider fan, but I played the demo for Underworld and it was actually pretty good... I plan on renting it at least!
not a fan
Never gave it a try.
Should be good, and I will probably get it at one point. Interesting enough, I didn't think that much about this but that would mean I have bought every single tomb raider in the past.
I downloaded the demo a while ago but have yet to try it. The Tomb Raider styIe of platforming is getting dated and tired. And with Mirror's Edge in my 360 I doubt I will have much interest in actually trying the demo.
I'll wait 'til it's under $30 and get it used. Should be good, but just not ''oh my god gotta buy it on day one'' good.
several years ago played Tomb Raider II. stupid.
[QUOTE=''djedi_master'']several years ago played Tomb Raider II. stupid.[/QUOTE]
yeah i think that is the only one i have played as well. Didn't make me interested in the series.
I care, Legend got me liking Tomb Raider after all.
I care but with so many games and no time to play right now, Lara will need to be very patient but I will get to it at some point.
Bought it for pc but I have yet to try it....it looks good though.
Didn't some magazine give it 4.5? Anyway, I haven't liked the TR series since PS1 glory days. There are superior action platformers out there these days.
I stopped playing tomb raider long ago, but this one looks good.
[QUOTE=''EuroMafia'']I stopped playing tomb raider long ago, but this one looks good.[/QUOTE]
No thanks, I will just play Uncharted again
I loved the last two games (Legend and Anniversary) despite me hating pretty much every TR game post TR2 (or maybe 3, but 2 was definitely the apex of Core's run), so I am definitely looking forward to this.
Meh, I don't really care. Aside from the graphics, I found the demo unimpressive.
Been a fan of TR games...however, I have to admit that my interests in the series started going downhill after angel of darkness...and even more so with every release after it...I had some hopes for this one, but after finding out more and more about it I'm finding it hard to care.
The demo to Underworld ultimately left me unsatisfied. It wasn't very enjoyable and it was frankly disappointing considering how much fun I had with TR Anniversary.
I care.New Tomb Raider....does anyone care?
I've never been a Tomb Raider fan, but I played the demo for Underworld and it was actually pretty good... I plan on renting it at least!
not a fan
Never gave it a try.
Should be good, and I will probably get it at one point. Interesting enough, I didn't think that much about this but that would mean I have bought every single tomb raider in the past.
I downloaded the demo a while ago but have yet to try it. The Tomb Raider styIe of platforming is getting dated and tired. And with Mirror's Edge in my 360 I doubt I will have much interest in actually trying the demo.
I'll wait 'til it's under $30 and get it used. Should be good, but just not ''oh my god gotta buy it on day one'' good.
several years ago played Tomb Raider II. stupid.
[QUOTE=''djedi_master'']several years ago played Tomb Raider II. stupid.[/QUOTE]
yeah i think that is the only one i have played as well. Didn't make me interested in the series.
I care, Legend got me liking Tomb Raider after all.
I care but with so many games and no time to play right now, Lara will need to be very patient but I will get to it at some point.
Bought it for pc but I have yet to try it....it looks good though.
Didn't some magazine give it 4.5? Anyway, I haven't liked the TR series since PS1 glory days. There are superior action platformers out there these days.
I stopped playing tomb raider long ago, but this one looks good.
[QUOTE=''EuroMafia'']I stopped playing tomb raider long ago, but this one looks good.[/QUOTE]
No thanks, I will just play Uncharted again
I loved the last two games (Legend and Anniversary) despite me hating pretty much every TR game post TR2 (or maybe 3, but 2 was definitely the apex of Core's run), so I am definitely looking forward to this.
Meh, I don't really care. Aside from the graphics, I found the demo unimpressive.
Been a fan of TR games...however, I have to admit that my interests in the series started going downhill after angel of darkness...and even more so with every release after it...I had some hopes for this one, but after finding out more and more about it I'm finding it hard to care.
The demo to Underworld ultimately left me unsatisfied. It wasn't very enjoyable and it was frankly disappointing considering how much fun I had with TR Anniversary.
Halo Wars - Too conventional?
Do you think Halo Wars will be too conventional to the RTS genre? Here is what they said about the game on a preview at Gamespy.com Halo Wars - Too conventional?
I think they have found the right way to do a RTS on consoles Halo Wars - Too conventional?
[QUOTE=''ExtremeOne316''] I think they have found the right way to do a RTS on consoles [/QUOTE] Oh okay. Have you played it?
its just a generic rts with halo slapped onto it. I'd rather play C@C or EndWar, at least those have some orginallity
[QUOTE=''Panther501'']its just a generic rts with halo slapped onto it. I'd rather play C@C or EndWar, at least those have some orginallity[/QUOTE] Neither of those are original though lol. Company of Heroes is however...
[QUOTE=''biggest_loser''][QUOTE=''Panther501'']its just a generic rts with halo slapped onto it. I'd rather play C@C or EndWar, at least those have some orginallity[/QUOTE] Neither of those are original though lol. Company of Heroes is however... [/QUOTE]Endwar has voice commands and C@C is a zaney take on a modern RTSI love Company of Heroes though. My co-favorite rts along with WIC
[QUOTE=''Panther501''][QUOTE=''biggest_loser''][QUOTE=''Panther501'']its just a generic rts with halo slapped onto it. I'd rather play C@C or EndWar, at least those have some orginallity[/QUOTE] Neither of those are original though lol. Company of Heroes is however... [/QUOTE]Endwar has voice commands and C@C is a zaney take on a modern RTSI love Company of Heroes though. My co-favorite rts along with WIC [/QUOTE] Both - regardless of gimmicks like voice commands - still play to the standard RTS conventions of base buildings and resources. Zaneyness does not equate to originality.
I think Halo Wars will turn out to be one of the easiest, most ''casual'' (if that word even exists for RTS games...) strategy games ever to try and entice Halo fanboys. I wouldn't be surprised if it is a very fast moving strategy game also since Halo fanboys are used to the hectic nature of Halo games.
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[QUOTE=''biggest_loser''][QUOTE=''Panther501''][QUOTE=''biggest_loser''] Neither of those are original though lol. Company of Heroes is however... [/QUOTE]Endwar has voice commands and C@C is a zaney take on a modern RTSI love Company of Heroes though. My co-favorite rts along with WIC [/QUOTE] Both - regardless of gimmicks like voice commands - still play to the standard RTS conventions of base buildings and resources. Zaneyness does not equate to originality. [/QUOTE]voice controls arn't gimicky at all and they add a new level of stratagy to the game. Why can't zanieness be orginal?
[QUOTE=''Panther501'']voice controls arn't gimicky at all and they add a new level of stratagy to the game. Why can't zanieness be orginal? [/QUOTE] How do they add new strategy? What sort of strategy? You can just use it move units as you would with ohhh I dont know.....a MOUSE. Zanieness is style and does not make the standard conventions of the genre - like base building - original.
[QUOTE=''biggest_loser''][QUOTE=''Panther501'']voice controls arn't gimicky at all and they add a new level of stratagy to the game. Why can't zanieness be orginal? [/QUOTE] How do they add new strategy? What sort of strategy? You can just use it move units as you would with ohhh I dont know.....a MOUSE. Zanieness is style and does not make the standard conventions of the genre - like base building - original. [/QUOTE] Voice commands allow for a tactical advantage for a player who uses it. It allows for more multitasking. You can use your controller to control one squad and have your voice command another. Orginal = something that hasn't been done before (street definition) Have voice commands for rts's been done before Endwar? no. therefore its orginalCan't a game's style be orignal? Who said that orginality had to be purely game play mechanicsHalo is neither orginal in gameplay or styleGameplay = base building, gather resources, build armies, destroy (C@C)Style = space marines kill aliens (very cliche)
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[QUOTE=''biggest_loser''][QUOTE=''ExtremeOne316''] I think they have found the right way to do a RTS on consoles [/QUOTE] Oh okay. Have you played it? [/QUOTE] I have not played it but from all the reading I have done they seem to have found the right control scheme for this game
[QUOTE=''Panther501'']Voice commands allow for a tactical advantage for a player who uses it. It allows for more multitasking. You can use your controller to control one squad and have your voice command another. Orginal = something that hasn't been done before (street definition) Have voice commands for rts's been done before Endwar? no. therefore its orginalCan't a game's style be orignal? Who said that orginality had to be purely game play mechanicsHalo is neither orginal in gameplay or styleGameplay = base building, gather resources, build armies, destroy (C@C)Style = space marines kill aliens (very cliche) [/QUOTE]I could multitask on PC by grouping units with numbers and then swapping between them. Its the same thing. It might not have been done before but its not particularly innovative given that it as as you said multitasking. It is merely a convenience for consoles given that there a controller would be inadequate for an RTS. While it might seem cool it takes the very nature of the RTS out of your hands: controlling the units yourself through the controls. I'm talking about originality in terms of gameplay and C%26C3 is very traditional as you said, base building etc. But even the style of C%26C3 is not that original. The units and buildings are very much like (identical to) the ones in Tiberium Sun, apart from the Scrin.
I too doubt the game will be too difficult. Yes, there are many Halo players who would do well with a complex RTS game, but those gamers don't push Halo sales into the several millions. MS wants the game to do as well as Halo games in the main storyline, therefore they don't want to alienate the typical ''frat boy doesn't like complex games'' Halo player. Give a Halo player like that Starcraft and he will toss it away within an hour.
Halo Wars will get massive amounts of hype because of its title alone and I think it is a major disappointment waiting to happen. I don't think it will be overly innovative, but I also don't think that it will be as conventional as Spore's RTS elements.Don't get your hopes up, Halo Wars could be the biggest disappointment of 2009 or the surprising breakout of the year. Only time will tell.
[QUOTE=''AvIdGaMeR444'']I think Halo Wars will turn out to be one of the easiest, most ''casual'' (if that word even exists for RTS games...) strategy games ever to try and entice Halo fanboys. I wouldn't be surprised if it is a very fast moving strategy game also since Halo fanboys are used to the hectic nature of Halo games. [/QUOTE] dude what is up with you? almost all of the posts you make has some sort of generalization
[QUOTE=''biggest_loser''][QUOTE=''Panther501''] Voice commands allow for a tactical advantage for a player who uses it. It allows for more multitasking. You can use your controller to control one squad and have your voice command another. Orginal = something that hasn't been done before (street definition) Have voice commands for rts's been done before Endwar? no. therefore its orginalCan't a game's style be orignal? Who said that orginality had to be purely game play mechanicsHalo is neither orginal in gameplay or styleGameplay = base building, gather resources, build armies, destroy (C@C)Style = space marines kill aliens (very cliche) [/QUOTE]I could multitask on PC by grouping units with numbers and then swapping between them. Its the same thing. It might not have been done before but its not particularly innovative given that it as as you said multitasking. It is merely a convenience for consoles given that there a controller would be inadequate for an RTS. While it might seem cool it takes the very nature of the RTS out of your hands: controlling the units yourself through the controls. I'm talking about originality in terms of gameplay and C%26C3 is very traditional as you said, base building etc. But even the style of C%26C3 is not that original. The units and buildings are very much like (identical to) the ones in Tiberium Sun, apart from the Scrin. [/QUOTE]And yet a lot of the features in CoH have been done in strategy games before, some were even done better. What makes CoH unique is the way it was put together making it play differently. So if CoHs feature set is not original and it can play differently why can't something like C%26C? After all there is no way you can say that StarCraft played like WarCraft 2 or that Red Alert 3 plays like alot like C@C3. And even with the CoH ****gameplay does not mean that you would get an AAA score, Opposing Fronts was AA among players and critics alike.
[QUOTE=''SSCyborg'']Stick to PC Games forums pl0x [/QUOTE] Halo Wars hasn't been confirmed for the PC. Thus, it should probably be here.Anyway, no, I don't think it's being to conventional. In fact, I don't think ''too conventional'' can be listed as a proper con for anything. Unfortunately, if you develop your RTS with a dune-esque approach, you've got a lot of competition. Can Halo Wars really match up to SC, AoEII, or decades of ''conventional'' RTSes? No. Its failure to do so will make it a decent RTS for Halo fans, but it won't be a game for the hardcore RTS crowd, who has played better games that follow a similar game mechanic. Had they instead, gone with a Relic sort of RTS, which focuses heavily on tactical engagements and the like, they wouldn't have had decades of RTS games to compete with, and they certainly would have been regarded more highly for trying something unconventional.My point is, being too conventional will hurt HW, but it doesn't make the game worse.
I think they have found the right way to do a RTS on consoles Halo Wars - Too conventional?
[QUOTE=''ExtremeOne316''] I think they have found the right way to do a RTS on consoles [/QUOTE] Oh okay. Have you played it?
its just a generic rts with halo slapped onto it. I'd rather play C@C or EndWar, at least those have some orginallity
[QUOTE=''Panther501'']its just a generic rts with halo slapped onto it. I'd rather play C@C or EndWar, at least those have some orginallity[/QUOTE] Neither of those are original though lol. Company of Heroes is however...
[QUOTE=''biggest_loser''][QUOTE=''Panther501'']its just a generic rts with halo slapped onto it. I'd rather play C@C or EndWar, at least those have some orginallity[/QUOTE] Neither of those are original though lol. Company of Heroes is however... [/QUOTE]Endwar has voice commands and C@C is a zaney take on a modern RTSI love Company of Heroes though. My co-favorite rts along with WIC
[QUOTE=''Panther501''][QUOTE=''biggest_loser''][QUOTE=''Panther501'']its just a generic rts with halo slapped onto it. I'd rather play C@C or EndWar, at least those have some orginallity[/QUOTE] Neither of those are original though lol. Company of Heroes is however... [/QUOTE]Endwar has voice commands and C@C is a zaney take on a modern RTSI love Company of Heroes though. My co-favorite rts along with WIC [/QUOTE] Both - regardless of gimmicks like voice commands - still play to the standard RTS conventions of base buildings and resources. Zaneyness does not equate to originality.
I think Halo Wars will turn out to be one of the easiest, most ''casual'' (if that word even exists for RTS games...) strategy games ever to try and entice Halo fanboys. I wouldn't be surprised if it is a very fast moving strategy game also since Halo fanboys are used to the hectic nature of Halo games.
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[QUOTE=''biggest_loser''][QUOTE=''Panther501''][QUOTE=''biggest_loser''] Neither of those are original though lol. Company of Heroes is however... [/QUOTE]Endwar has voice commands and C@C is a zaney take on a modern RTSI love Company of Heroes though. My co-favorite rts along with WIC [/QUOTE] Both - regardless of gimmicks like voice commands - still play to the standard RTS conventions of base buildings and resources. Zaneyness does not equate to originality. [/QUOTE]voice controls arn't gimicky at all and they add a new level of stratagy to the game. Why can't zanieness be orginal?
[QUOTE=''Panther501'']voice controls arn't gimicky at all and they add a new level of stratagy to the game. Why can't zanieness be orginal? [/QUOTE] How do they add new strategy? What sort of strategy? You can just use it move units as you would with ohhh I dont know.....a MOUSE. Zanieness is style and does not make the standard conventions of the genre - like base building - original.
[QUOTE=''biggest_loser''][QUOTE=''Panther501'']voice controls arn't gimicky at all and they add a new level of stratagy to the game. Why can't zanieness be orginal? [/QUOTE] How do they add new strategy? What sort of strategy? You can just use it move units as you would with ohhh I dont know.....a MOUSE. Zanieness is style and does not make the standard conventions of the genre - like base building - original. [/QUOTE] Voice commands allow for a tactical advantage for a player who uses it. It allows for more multitasking. You can use your controller to control one squad and have your voice command another. Orginal = something that hasn't been done before (street definition) Have voice commands for rts's been done before Endwar? no. therefore its orginalCan't a game's style be orignal? Who said that orginality had to be purely game play mechanicsHalo is neither orginal in gameplay or styleGameplay = base building, gather resources, build armies, destroy (C@C)Style = space marines kill aliens (very cliche)
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[QUOTE=''biggest_loser''][QUOTE=''ExtremeOne316''] I think they have found the right way to do a RTS on consoles [/QUOTE] Oh okay. Have you played it? [/QUOTE] I have not played it but from all the reading I have done they seem to have found the right control scheme for this game
[QUOTE=''Panther501'']Voice commands allow for a tactical advantage for a player who uses it. It allows for more multitasking. You can use your controller to control one squad and have your voice command another. Orginal = something that hasn't been done before (street definition) Have voice commands for rts's been done before Endwar? no. therefore its orginalCan't a game's style be orignal? Who said that orginality had to be purely game play mechanicsHalo is neither orginal in gameplay or styleGameplay = base building, gather resources, build armies, destroy (C@C)Style = space marines kill aliens (very cliche) [/QUOTE]I could multitask on PC by grouping units with numbers and then swapping between them. Its the same thing. It might not have been done before but its not particularly innovative given that it as as you said multitasking. It is merely a convenience for consoles given that there a controller would be inadequate for an RTS. While it might seem cool it takes the very nature of the RTS out of your hands: controlling the units yourself through the controls. I'm talking about originality in terms of gameplay and C%26C3 is very traditional as you said, base building etc. But even the style of C%26C3 is not that original. The units and buildings are very much like (identical to) the ones in Tiberium Sun, apart from the Scrin.
I too doubt the game will be too difficult. Yes, there are many Halo players who would do well with a complex RTS game, but those gamers don't push Halo sales into the several millions. MS wants the game to do as well as Halo games in the main storyline, therefore they don't want to alienate the typical ''frat boy doesn't like complex games'' Halo player. Give a Halo player like that Starcraft and he will toss it away within an hour.
Halo Wars will get massive amounts of hype because of its title alone and I think it is a major disappointment waiting to happen. I don't think it will be overly innovative, but I also don't think that it will be as conventional as Spore's RTS elements.Don't get your hopes up, Halo Wars could be the biggest disappointment of 2009 or the surprising breakout of the year. Only time will tell.
[QUOTE=''AvIdGaMeR444'']I think Halo Wars will turn out to be one of the easiest, most ''casual'' (if that word even exists for RTS games...) strategy games ever to try and entice Halo fanboys. I wouldn't be surprised if it is a very fast moving strategy game also since Halo fanboys are used to the hectic nature of Halo games. [/QUOTE] dude what is up with you? almost all of the posts you make has some sort of generalization
[QUOTE=''biggest_loser''][QUOTE=''Panther501''] Voice commands allow for a tactical advantage for a player who uses it. It allows for more multitasking. You can use your controller to control one squad and have your voice command another. Orginal = something that hasn't been done before (street definition) Have voice commands for rts's been done before Endwar? no. therefore its orginalCan't a game's style be orignal? Who said that orginality had to be purely game play mechanicsHalo is neither orginal in gameplay or styleGameplay = base building, gather resources, build armies, destroy (C@C)Style = space marines kill aliens (very cliche) [/QUOTE]I could multitask on PC by grouping units with numbers and then swapping between them. Its the same thing. It might not have been done before but its not particularly innovative given that it as as you said multitasking. It is merely a convenience for consoles given that there a controller would be inadequate for an RTS. While it might seem cool it takes the very nature of the RTS out of your hands: controlling the units yourself through the controls. I'm talking about originality in terms of gameplay and C%26C3 is very traditional as you said, base building etc. But even the style of C%26C3 is not that original. The units and buildings are very much like (identical to) the ones in Tiberium Sun, apart from the Scrin. [/QUOTE]And yet a lot of the features in CoH have been done in strategy games before, some were even done better. What makes CoH unique is the way it was put together making it play differently. So if CoHs feature set is not original and it can play differently why can't something like C%26C? After all there is no way you can say that StarCraft played like WarCraft 2 or that Red Alert 3 plays like alot like C@C3. And even with the CoH ****gameplay does not mean that you would get an AAA score, Opposing Fronts was AA among players and critics alike.
[QUOTE=''SSCyborg'']Stick to PC Games forums pl0x [/QUOTE] Halo Wars hasn't been confirmed for the PC. Thus, it should probably be here.Anyway, no, I don't think it's being to conventional. In fact, I don't think ''too conventional'' can be listed as a proper con for anything. Unfortunately, if you develop your RTS with a dune-esque approach, you've got a lot of competition. Can Halo Wars really match up to SC, AoEII, or decades of ''conventional'' RTSes? No. Its failure to do so will make it a decent RTS for Halo fans, but it won't be a game for the hardcore RTS crowd, who has played better games that follow a similar game mechanic. Had they instead, gone with a Relic sort of RTS, which focuses heavily on tactical engagements and the like, they wouldn't have had decades of RTS games to compete with, and they certainly would have been regarded more highly for trying something unconventional.My point is, being too conventional will hurt HW, but it doesn't make the game worse.
Lips and youre in the movies FLOPs?
They both floped. During e3 they talked about how innovative they made them n all that. Even though everyone knew that it was another version to singstar and eyetoy. They should stick to FPS and third persons shooters.
Not really trolling just saying X360 should stick to games that made them them. HALO %26 Gears
and that they made a poor choice on lips and your at the movies.
Lips and youre in the movies FLOPs?
Nobody took them seriously, with that said, if MS can market these games properly, they can sell well and move consoles tooLips and youre in the movies FLOPs?
yea i dont think anybody cares about these games
Really, you have links to any hype threads?
Can you honestly say you took this seriously?![]()
there's a reason casuals and families pick the wii over the 360it has much better software for them
No hype, no flop.
Thou shall not flop what has no hype.
Anyone who saw the E3 presentation for ''You're in the Movies'' could've seen that coming. It looked like ass then and I didn't expect it to improve from there. Lips, however, looked like it had some promise. I thought it would be getting 7s across the board.
How can a game flop when it didn't have any hype? I'm tired of everyone calling every game that gets reviewed a flop. It has to have some hype people. :evil:
MS wants in, to the casual market.Badly.
Whats funny most of us lemmings and cows were making fun of lips and your in the movies after they show them at E32008
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the thing is, i was exited like crazy for lips :(Ill just wait till i get a ps3 and buy singstar
[QUOTE=''Faulttt'']the thing is, i was exited like crazy for lips :(Ill just wait till i get a ps3 and buy singstar [/QUOTE]They screwed it up, short developement time is the problemInis are fantastic, hopefully they tinker the formula nicely for the next release, look at Scene It?, the second game is vastly superior despite just a shakeup in the way it plays
People was actually talking about this game? Damn where have I been? wait a sec...where have you been? I could have sworn thiese games where never hyped to began with. So no Flop!
Not really trolling just saying X360 should stick to games that made them them. HALO %26 Gears
and that they made a poor choice on lips and your at the movies.
Lips and youre in the movies FLOPs?
Nobody took them seriously, with that said, if MS can market these games properly, they can sell well and move consoles tooLips and youre in the movies FLOPs?
yea i dont think anybody cares about these games
Really, you have links to any hype threads?
Can you honestly say you took this seriously?
there's a reason casuals and families pick the wii over the 360it has much better software for them
No hype, no flop.
Thou shall not flop what has no hype.
Anyone who saw the E3 presentation for ''You're in the Movies'' could've seen that coming. It looked like ass then and I didn't expect it to improve from there. Lips, however, looked like it had some promise. I thought it would be getting 7s across the board.
How can a game flop when it didn't have any hype? I'm tired of everyone calling every game that gets reviewed a flop. It has to have some hype people. :evil:
MS wants in, to the casual market.Badly.
Whats funny most of us lemmings and cows were making fun of lips and your in the movies after they show them at E32008
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the thing is, i was exited like crazy for lips :(Ill just wait till i get a ps3 and buy singstar
[QUOTE=''Faulttt'']the thing is, i was exited like crazy for lips :(Ill just wait till i get a ps3 and buy singstar [/QUOTE]They screwed it up, short developement time is the problemInis are fantastic, hopefully they tinker the formula nicely for the next release, look at Scene It?, the second game is vastly superior despite just a shakeup in the way it plays
People was actually talking about this game? Damn where have I been? wait a sec...where have you been? I could have sworn thiese games where never hyped to began with. So no Flop!
Media Create Sales: 11/10 - 11/16 (Softw ...
01. [NDS] Hoshi no Kirby: Ultra Super Deluxe (Nintendo) 97,000 / 363,000
02. [PS3] Samuraidou 3 (Spike) 81,000 / NEW
03. [NDS] Tongari Boushi to Mahou no 365 Nichi (Konami) 72,000 / NEW
04. [NDS] Fushigi no Dungeon Fuurai no Shiren DS 2: Sabaku no Majou (SEGA) 45,000 / NEW
05. [PS3] Resistance 2 (SCE) 33,000 / NEW
06. [NDS] DS Nishimura Kyoutarou Suspense 2 Shintantei Series:%26hellip; (Tecmo) 33,000 / NEW
07. [NDS] Ryuusei no Rockman 3: Black Ace (Capcom) 33,000 / NEW
08. [NDS] Rhythm Tengoku Gold (Nintendo) 30,000 / 1,159,000
09. [NDS] Wagamama Fashion Girls Mode (Nintendo) 30,000 / 183,000
10. [NDS] Pokémon Platinum (Pokémon) 27,000 / 1,917,000
11. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto IV (Capcom)
12. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
13. [NDS] Ryuusei no Rockman 3: Red Joker (Capcom)
14. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Spec III (SCE)
15. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP the Best) (Capcom)
16. [WII] Family Ski World Ski %26 Snowboard (Namco Bandai)
17. [NDS] Valkyrie Profile: Toga o Seoumono (Square Enix)
18. [PS3] FIFA 09 (Electronic Arts)
19. [WII] Wii Music (Nintendo)
20. [NDS] Personal Trainer: Walking (Nintendo)
21. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
22. [PS3] LittleBigPlanet (SCE)
23. [WII] Shape Boxing: Wii de Enjoy! Diet (Imagine)
24. [PSP] Yuusha no Kuse ni Namaikida Or 2 (SCE)
25. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo)
26. [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo)
27. [PS2] Shin Sangoku Musou 5 Special (KOEI)
28. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Level 5)
29. [NDS] Cid to Chocobo no Fushigi na Dungeon: Toki Wasure no Meikyuu + (Square Enix)
30. [NDS] Avalon Code (Marvelous Interactive)SourceResistance 2 actually did pretty decent. It actually sold better then Eternal Sonata if I am not mistaken. Media Create Sales: 11/10 - 11/16 (Softw ...
Why does it say Capcom next to GTA4? they have a hand in it for the Japan release?Media Create Sales: 11/10 - 11/16 (Softw ...
[QUOTE=''SiKh22'']Why does it say Capcom next to GTA4? they have a hand in it for the Japan release?[/QUOTE] They were the publisher for the Japanese release.
[QUOTE=''jakarai''][QUOTE=''SiKh22'']Why does it say Capcom next to GTA4? they have a hand in it for the Japan release?[/QUOTE] They were the publisher for the Japanese release. [/QUOTE] really? awesome, Capcom is I think the best 3rd party dev right now. They have some titles in different areas, they can take over!
I'm surprised at LittleBigPlanet sales. You think Japan would accept it more. I just bought LBP today and I love it.
i see the spike is still there.
[QUOTE=''Albanian_Killa'']I'm surprised at LittleBigPlanet sales. You think Japan would accept it more. I just bought LBP today and I love it.[/QUOTE] Yeah me to. They love Mario why not as much love for LittleBigPlanet. :?
[QUOTE=''jakarai''][QUOTE=''Albanian_Killa'']I'm surprised at LittleBigPlanet sales. You think Japan would accept it more. I just bought LBP today and I love it.[/QUOTE] Yeah me to. They love Mario why not as much love for LittleBigPlanet. :? [/QUOTE] They don't like complex stuff or it could be because its Nintendo
[QUOTE=''jakarai''][QUOTE=''Albanian_Killa'']I'm surprised at LittleBigPlanet sales. You think Japan would accept it more. I just bought LBP today and I love it.[/QUOTE] Yeah me to. They love Mario why not as much love for LittleBigPlanet. :? [/QUOTE] because its a map editor disguised as a game?
Ps3 doing well in the software battle in Japan
Well didn't LBP release much earlier in Japan? Can't stay on top forever. Was it ever in the top ten?
02. [PS3] Samuraidou 3 (Spike) 81,000 / NEW
03. [NDS] Tongari Boushi to Mahou no 365 Nichi (Konami) 72,000 / NEW
04. [NDS] Fushigi no Dungeon Fuurai no Shiren DS 2: Sabaku no Majou (SEGA) 45,000 / NEW
05. [PS3] Resistance 2 (SCE) 33,000 / NEW
06. [NDS] DS Nishimura Kyoutarou Suspense 2 Shintantei Series:%26hellip; (Tecmo) 33,000 / NEW
07. [NDS] Ryuusei no Rockman 3: Black Ace (Capcom) 33,000 / NEW
08. [NDS] Rhythm Tengoku Gold (Nintendo) 30,000 / 1,159,000
09. [NDS] Wagamama Fashion Girls Mode (Nintendo) 30,000 / 183,000
10. [NDS] Pokémon Platinum (Pokémon) 27,000 / 1,917,000
11. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto IV (Capcom)
12. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
13. [NDS] Ryuusei no Rockman 3: Red Joker (Capcom)
14. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Spec III (SCE)
15. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP the Best) (Capcom)
16. [WII] Family Ski World Ski %26 Snowboard (Namco Bandai)
17. [NDS] Valkyrie Profile: Toga o Seoumono (Square Enix)
18. [PS3] FIFA 09 (Electronic Arts)
19. [WII] Wii Music (Nintendo)
20. [NDS] Personal Trainer: Walking (Nintendo)
21. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
22. [PS3] LittleBigPlanet (SCE)
23. [WII] Shape Boxing: Wii de Enjoy! Diet (Imagine)
24. [PSP] Yuusha no Kuse ni Namaikida Or 2 (SCE)
25. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo)
26. [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo)
27. [PS2] Shin Sangoku Musou 5 Special (KOEI)
28. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Level 5)
29. [NDS] Cid to Chocobo no Fushigi na Dungeon: Toki Wasure no Meikyuu + (Square Enix)
30. [NDS] Avalon Code (Marvelous Interactive)SourceResistance 2 actually did pretty decent. It actually sold better then Eternal Sonata if I am not mistaken. Media Create Sales: 11/10 - 11/16 (Softw ...
Why does it say Capcom next to GTA4? they have a hand in it for the Japan release?Media Create Sales: 11/10 - 11/16 (Softw ...
[QUOTE=''SiKh22'']Why does it say Capcom next to GTA4? they have a hand in it for the Japan release?[/QUOTE] They were the publisher for the Japanese release.
[QUOTE=''jakarai''][QUOTE=''SiKh22'']Why does it say Capcom next to GTA4? they have a hand in it for the Japan release?[/QUOTE] They were the publisher for the Japanese release. [/QUOTE] really? awesome, Capcom is I think the best 3rd party dev right now. They have some titles in different areas, they can take over!
I'm surprised at LittleBigPlanet sales. You think Japan would accept it more. I just bought LBP today and I love it.
i see the spike is still there.
[QUOTE=''Albanian_Killa'']I'm surprised at LittleBigPlanet sales. You think Japan would accept it more. I just bought LBP today and I love it.[/QUOTE] Yeah me to. They love Mario why not as much love for LittleBigPlanet. :?
[QUOTE=''jakarai''][QUOTE=''Albanian_Killa'']I'm surprised at LittleBigPlanet sales. You think Japan would accept it more. I just bought LBP today and I love it.[/QUOTE] Yeah me to. They love Mario why not as much love for LittleBigPlanet. :? [/QUOTE] They don't like complex stuff or it could be because its Nintendo
[QUOTE=''jakarai''][QUOTE=''Albanian_Killa'']I'm surprised at LittleBigPlanet sales. You think Japan would accept it more. I just bought LBP today and I love it.[/QUOTE] Yeah me to. They love Mario why not as much love for LittleBigPlanet. :? [/QUOTE] because its a map editor disguised as a game?
Ps3 doing well in the software battle in Japan
Well didn't LBP release much earlier in Japan? Can't stay on top forever. Was it ever in the top ten?
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