PC gaming market bigger than you think

From the article:''According to JPR, current world wide combined console sales for the latest generation of home consoles (PS3, XB360, Wii) total somewhere close to 75.7 million units shipped. That might sound like a lot, but it's made to look small in comparison to the 196 million gaming PCs shipped in the last three years - and that doesn't even include any enthusiast systems built from component parts''http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#lastOne thing to keep in mind though sales of games on the PC still lag behind the consoles. unless you are world of warcraft, sims or a valve gamePC gaming market bigger than you think
Does that number include all the horrible PC's marketed as gaming PC's? Unfortunately the ordinary person doesn't know that 8400 GS is not good for gaming.PC gaming market bigger than you think
[QUOTE=''RK-Mara'']Does that number include all the horrible PC's marketed as gaming PC's? Unfortunately the ordinary person doesn't know that 8400 GS is not good for gaming.[/QUOTE] I know I will cause pain to console fanboys but:Any GPU above the 8500GS can run games at ULTRA HD PS3 rez of 576p....at the ULTRA HIGH 2xAA....
Well i decided not to bother myself anymore trying to proove point to some 12 y old console kidsI want to enjoy playing games @ XHD on my great gpu with ultra precise razer copperhead mouse lol :lol:
[QUOTE=''Lidve''] Well i decided not to bother myself anymore trying to proove point to some 12 y old console kidsI want to enjoy playing games @ XHD on my great gpu with ultra precise razer copperhead mouse lol :lol:[/QUOTE]Copperhead FTW.
[QUOTE=''crozon'']From the article:''According to JPR, current world wide combined console sales for the latest generation of home consoles (PS3, XB360, Wii) total somewhere close to 75.7 million units shipped. That might sound like a lot, but it's made to look small in comparison to the 196 million gaming PCs shipped in the last three years - and that doesn't even include any enthusiast systems built from component parts''http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#lastOne thing to keep in mind though sales of games on the PC still lag behind the consoles. unless you are world of warcraft, sims or a valve game[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#last]Linked for the lazy![/url]
from rockpapershotgun.comCleverthinks research company Jon Peddie Research have put together a report on the state of the PC hardware market, and it's looking good. Peddie says: ''From Q3 2005 till Q3 2008, 196 million gaming PCs shipped, and 10 million of them were in the Mainstream Enthusiast class-and if we include mainstream desktop and High-end high-end notebook, we could add another 187 million units-now that really is a lot.''The Techwatch article (currently on the front page of the Peddie site) seems astonished at the rude health of the PC gaming industry compared to the fledgling consoles. In fact it gets a little sarcastic about the HDTV fanfare from console types: ''Thankfully HD TVs are sneaking into the living room bringing 720p and, in some cases, 1080i capability. Imagine, 720p almost as good as 1024 x 768-old XGA resolution introduced by IBM in 1988-wow.''Peddie sums it up: ''Fact is the PC Gaming Market is bigger, worth more money, growing faster, and has better technology than the console market. How come no one but us seems to know that?''
pc is coming back big in full force, thanks to ps3 and xbox360. the development fees is so high for these consoles, that developers have no choice but to risk dumping there properties on the pc. I decided to go pc gaming thanks to those other 2 consoles.
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[QUOTE=''True_Gamer_''][QUOTE=''RK-Mara'']Does that number include all the horrible PC's marketed as gaming PC's? Unfortunately the ordinary person doesn't know that 8400 GS is not good for gaming.[/QUOTE] I know I will cause pain to console fanboys but:Any GPU above the 8500GS can run games at ULTRA HD PS3 rez of 576p....at the ULTRA HIGH 2xAA.... [/QUOTE] um.... cards lower than that can do higher than that...i ran those settings on my 6600 GTX PS: if your getting a video card, get the GTX or the Ultra, they are the best
[QUOTE=''crozon'']from rockpapershotgun.comCleverthinks research company Jon Peddie Research have put together a report on the state of the PC hardware market, and it's looking good. Peddie says: ''From Q3 2005 till Q3 2008, 196 million gaming PCs shipped, and 10 million of them were in the Mainstream Enthusiast class-and if we include mainstream desktop and High-end high-end notebook, we could add another 187 million units-now that really is a lot.''The Techwatch article (currently on the front page of the Peddie site) seems astonished at the rude health of the PC gaming industry compared to the fledgling consoles. In fact it gets a little sarcastic about the HDTV fanfare from console types: ''Thankfully HD TVs are sneaking into the living room bringing 720p and, in some cases, 1080i capability. Imagine, 720p almost as good as 1024 x 768-old XGA resolution introduced by IBM in 1988-wow.''Peddie sums it up: ''Fact is the PC Gaming Market is bigger, worth more money, growing faster, and has better technology than the console market. How come no one but us seems to know that?''[/QUOTE] LMAO in what world is 1280x720 worst than 1024x768? Fullscreen sucks and 1280x720 is more pixels than 1024x768. They lost the little credibility they had.
[QUOTE=''Rahnyc4'']pc is coming back big in full force, thanks to ps3 and xbox360. the development fees is so high for these consoles, that developers have no choice but to risk dumping there properties on the pc. I decided to go pc gaming thanks to those other 2 consoles. [/QUOTE]PC gaming never left. :)In fact, without PC gaming there would never have been any consoles whatsoever.
[QUOTE=''crozon''] From the article:''According to JPR, current world wide combined console sales for the latest generation of home consoles (PS3, XB360, Wii) total somewhere close to 75.7 million units shipped. That might sound like a lot, but it's made to look small in comparison to the 196 million gaming PCs shipped in the last three years - and that doesn't even include any enthusiast systems built from component parts''http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#lastOne thing to keep in mind though sales of games on the PC still lag behind the consoles. unless you are world of warcraft, sims or a valve game[/QUOTE]Many upon many PC games sell 1+ million. Hell, The Witcher (which is a fairly niche RPG) sold 1+ million. Tons upon tons of others have as well. It balances out as well considering the royalty fees are hefty when making a game on a console. Plus the development costs on the PC are far less than others. Edit: They're not including my PC. :( I built it myself from hardware bought from websites. That's as bad as NPD not counting digital distribution for their PC sales. You have to count everything.
Sure the hardware sells, but what about the games? Isn't that what really matters? All these hardware sales for ''gaming PCs'' just don't add up to the weak software sales. ''While it's certainly good news that the PC gaming master race is continuing to grow and that the hardware market is sound, we still have concerns about the state of the PC gaming especially as more and more titles go multi-format and intellectual property piracy becomes ever more rampant. While the hardware is out there, the sales figures are clear that it's not being utilised in a gaming breadth anywhere near as wide as consoles.'' Funny all these ''gaming PCs'' just to play WoW and the sims, yay pc gaming.http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#last
[QUOTE=''shadow_hosi''][QUOTE=''True_Gamer_''][QUOTE=''RK-Mara'']Does that number include all the horrible PC's marketed as gaming PC's? Unfortunately the ordinary person doesn't know that 8400 GS is not good for gaming.[/QUOTE] I know I will cause pain to console fanboys but:Any GPU above the 8500GS can run games at ULTRA HD PS3 rez of 576p....at the ULTRA HIGH 2xAA.... [/QUOTE] um.... cards lower than that can do higher than that...i ran those settings on my 6600 GTX PS: if your getting a video card, get the GTX or the Ultra, they are the best [/QUOTE] 6600GTX doesnt even exist. Show mone review of it. Show me it at Nvidias 6 series home page. Nice try tho
Why are PC gamers so insecure.
360 has 30 plus million sellers. How many does PC have since 2005?
[QUOTE=''robflores370''] Sure the hardware sells, but what about the games? Isn't that what really matters? All these hardware sales for ''gaming PCs'' just don't add up to the weak software sales. ''While it's certainly good news that the PC gaming master race is continuing to grow and that the hardware market is sound, we still have concerns about the state of the PC gaming especially as more and more titles go multi-format and intellectual property piracy becomes ever more rampant. While the hardware is out there, the sales figures are clear that it's not being utilised in a gaming breadth anywhere near as wide as consoles.'' Funny all these ''gaming PCs'' just to play WoW and the sims, yay pc gaming.http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#last [/QUOTE]Many PC games sell 1+ million copies. Piracy? Sure, piracy is a problem on any platform (other than PS3 atm till a bluray burner is made). And of course PC has it a bit more than others. Less than 25% of PC gamers pirate any games at all though. So it's not as if all do it (if anyone thought that they need help). PC games do sell well but piracy does hurt the sales a bit. These gaming PC's are far from only being WoW and Sims PC's. Hell, Crysis alone sold around 2 million copies and that had steeper than usual requirements.
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[QUOTE=''Puckhog04''][QUOTE=''robflores370''] Sure the hardware sells, but what about the games? Isn't that what really matters? All these hardware sales for ''gaming PCs'' just don't add up to the weak software sales. ''While it's certainly good news that the PC gaming master race is continuing to grow and that the hardware market is sound, we still have concerns about the state of the PC gaming especially as more and more titles go multi-format and intellectual property piracy becomes ever more rampant. While the hardware is out there, the sales figures are clear that it's not being utilised in a gaming breadth anywhere near as wide as consoles.'' Funny all these ''gaming PCs'' just to play WoW and the sims, yay pc gaming.http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11/19/gaming-pc-market-bigger-than-you-d-expect/1#last [/QUOTE]Many PC games sell 1+ million copies. Piracy? Sure, piracy is a problem on any platform (other than PS3 atm till a bluray burner is made). And of course PC has it a bit more than others. Less than 25% of PC gamers pirate any games at all though. So it's not as if all do it (if anyone thought that they need help). PC games do sell well but piracy does hurt the sales a bit. These gaming PC's are far from only being WoW and Sims PC's. Hell, Crysis alone sold around 2 million copies and that had steeper than usual requirements. [/QUOTE]So with 196 million gaming PCs most titles can barely muster 1 million copies, thats weak IMO. I'm willing to bet if there were 196 million xbox 360's, Halo 3 would've sold 50million plus. Sure there is piracy on consoles but it is nowhere near as bad as it is on PC. Sure titles like gears 2, GTAIV, and others are leaked early, but they still sell millions. Gears 2 did 2.1 million the first day alone. I think GTAIV did 9 million on both consoles. Where are those type of sales with pc games other than WoW?